Who is the Sustainer/Unknown God? - Genshin Impact theory

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[Roihclem]

Sophia was so dizzy and in love with monad that she yearned to create she got lost in the abyss and was desecrated, the archons and demiurge where born here. She later made it back to the light(she is the spirit of wisdom) and remarried with her paired angel, she then sends Adam to the demiurges world and gives him some of her wisdom

[meakimon]

This is an interesting theory. What if she needed the help of the twins, and first convinced the twin we don't play as, and that twin decided what method to best convince us to help, is to travel through it, with little interference from the other twin.

Much to think about.^^

[vinny]

..Perhaps the Unknown God is Genshin's version of Kiana? She honestly does share some resemeblance when she lost control and became a Hersher Kiana's eyes were similar, and she also had the ability to summon Cubes and attack people with them. What if the unknown god is actually a Genshin variant of a Herscher but with Kiana's appearance?

[sabhyata]

what if they mean that they are waiting for primordial one or that he can't come rn....IS BECAUSE HE IS IN WEAKENED STATE AFTER CHANGING TIMELINE OF TEYVAT...like dainslief character card says that the primordial one reverts the destruction....destruction is kaenhriah and after the primordial reverts time for teyvat he uses all his power and goes into weakened state....to recover his powers... he is in slumber...and send the sustainer ( the one we meet first) to stop travelers from leaving teyvat so they can help the teyvat in his absence....but one of the twins gets fooled ( like in battle pass story) and believes that she is queen of abyss....like we saw already in dainslief quest...but in meantime aether starts his own journey....which is after kaenriah and finds that even after destruction people are living and all...but what lumine sees the destruction or how people are dying...so she starts supporting abyss which was teyvat before the gods descended...and aether starts meeting people after kaenriah who are descenders...so basically lumine is the one end ( the old teyvat ) and aether is new end ( the new teyvat ) and after they meet after aether completes his own jounery...they experience different timelines and supports different faction according their experience...lumine supports abyss because she witnessed the destruction...and aether supports the god because he saw people living and flouroushing after the destruction....at the end they stand against each other....
likee idk but i guess idk lol

[SirSailorStar]

Sophia possibly being Night Mother is scary

[ricexsf]

We all think the Unknown God is the villain, but what if not? Remember Khaenri'ah incident? We can see all the cubes that Unknown God uses to seal twins, so i'm thinking, it was 500 years ago from actual Teyvat, my theory is that Unknown God was an civilian of Khaenri'ah but she was born with powers, and the people of Khaenri'ah started bullying her, because she was different and born with powers among an human civilization, she was probably treated like a witch for them, so she suffered by her powers and started to hate Khaenri'ah, so one day things gone a way too far and she accidently used her powers, like she lost self control and started to destroy Khaenri'ah and released the curse upon all the people of Khaenri'ah that in future became Hilichurls, so after that she had 3 daughters that in future would become the "moons" of Teyvat, one of them is Paimon, that explains the white hair, and maybe Unknown God was so sad and mad because their daughters disappeared that she started blocking travellers from other worlds, and what i think is that Dainsleif has some link with the missing of the moons of Teyvat or even a blood bond with them ( that explains the element of the stars that is kinda like Paimon one ), so after our twin see the truth of the world he started to hate Dainsleif and the world itself by it many sins, and i think that Paimon will save us from Unknown God, because of mother and daughter thing. Maybe i said a lot of nonsense shit but i decided to share it, and maybe i'm very wrong but gimme you all opinions.

[polarcos]

I have 2 theories that would summarize what happened to our twin: (Medium long text)

1) Our Twin still Lives:

1.1) If she lives then her body is still encapsulated due to the power of the Unknown God: the twin that appeared in Khaenri'ah is a copy of her with altered memories, that would explain why the record exists in the Irminsul, and the true twin is still trapped in Celestia.

1.2) If she lives, she was sent with altered memories to Khaenri'ah 500 years ago, this would be true because this is related to the story they show us in every battle pass that the princess was tricked, and now she believes that she is the queen of the Kingdom of Darkness


2) Our Twin is dead (she is dead due the power of the Unknown God from the begging)

2.1) If she is dead, her memories were transferred to a puppet, just like Scaramouche did when he reincarnated as The Wanderer, that would explain the registration in the Irminsul as a puppet with Lumine's memories.

2.2) If she is dead, then all we have been chasing so far is an illusion, just as the voice warned us in the Wanderer's final story: "Teyvat's fate cannot be changed, ; Only what you see is true, what what is unseen is but an illusion".
That is why that voice gave the example of the broken vase: Whether it is broken by a cat or by a bird, the result is a still a broken vase.
If the twin is dead, that was her fate, and what we saw of her was just an illusion because the Traveler did not recognize the behavior of his twin

[yashsarda]

So, I have some thoughts about this. Please bear with me, it might be a bit long.

On the surface we can theorize as such:
5 artifacts exist. We can simplify what the first 4 pieces represent Life, Death, Time (Hourglass), Space (Goblet holds a volume of substance). Im not sure how to simplify circlet. Since its like a crown maybe its the most important piece thematically?

1 Primordial God, 4 Shades. If artifacts represent Primordial One and his shades:
We know Istaroth = Time = Sands? (hourglass)

Maybe there's entities that represent Life and Death that we haven't seen yet. Or maybe I just missed something (I haven't read everything in the game yet). In Sumeru, they tell us that Marana is Death's Avatar so there's some breadcrumbs there potentially. Also, Goddess of Flowers and Flower of Life (1st artifact in the set) seem to have a common flower theme. But people also theorize her to be a seelie so idk.

Im assuming (as you did), Sustainer = Space = Goblet (Her weird cube powers seem to 'displace' or 'trap' people as you said. Cube is also a fundamental 3D shape.
Circlet = Primordial One. Someone who is master of Life, Death, Time and Space is probably the Primordial One. (Is it same the same as Original God? Idk tbh)

It all ties in very neatly thematically. But the problem arises when I go deeper into the artifact descriptions. Specifically Sands of Eon and Goblet of Eonothem.

An eon is a huge span of time. So Istaroth = Sands somewhat holds here. But an Eonothem is the “totality of rock strata” deposited in an eon as per Wikipedia. It technically isn’t space. In a way it’s a record of stuff that happened in that amount of time. So does Goblet of Eonothem refer to the God of Moments instead? A snapshot of a moment in time.

But God of Time and God of Moments are currently assumed to both be Istaroth (she is referred to by both names). So do the Sands and Goblet both refer to Istaroth? Eons and Eonothems are both divided into 4 time periods which also share the same names which makes it even more confusing. I am probably misinterpreting the Goblet of Eonothem. I hope so because I like the Goblet = Space = Sustainer theory better. But unless I can link Eonothem to space somehow I cant 100% believe it.

For further reading I will direct you to this short Wikipedia page about the Geological Time Scale otherwise this comment will be too long. I highly recommend reading at least the first table. You can also find some Albedo crumbs there ;)

[fae_baobhan_cernunnos]

You know I never noticed that only one of the sustainers arms has that cube affect going through it. I'm just imagining that she could simply be a god of destruction and it was a matter of wrong place wrong time for the twins.

[edrusavie]

She's/he's is definitely a SUStainer god

[AdrianLarsen-mg]

Ninguang is unknown god sister and Paimon is the lil sister spying on us aka traveler They are known like the 3 sisters u can do the quest about unknown god when lvl 100

[oreo]

Sustainer of heavenly principals will be a catalyst character it looks like

[Wasdoffcial-im]

My theory is that the unknown god is the second who came because the second who came might be the first decender because the second who came didn’t belong/make teyvat

And another theory is that paimon is the primordial one.
I think that paimon is the primordial one because the primordial one lost and shrunk in size even tho in the irminsul it says the primordial one won but after that the primordial one changed actions and didn’t care about its most treasured creations as the irminsul says but why would the primordial one abandon its most treasured creations? But u might be thinking the irminsul says tho its true! As we know the knowledge in irminsul can be altered so i think that the second who came altered the knowledge in irminsul that would explain why "the primordial one” banned the seelies from celestia

[gerry]

Fire vid 🔥
Also, the abyss is said to be the primordial water from where the world originated.
But what if Sophia is actually the will of the abyss? 😬

[ratinyourspaghetti]

I wonder is Genshin is one of the branches from the imaginary tree since in a few honkai events there are a few easters eggs that hint they’re in the same universe one subtle one is Otto’s computer showing dvalin flying around and if this is true then quite possibly the new timeline Otto created in Chapter 28 in order to save kallen lead to a different outcome in that universe breaking free from the 50, 000 year old samsara much faster than the current honkai timeline

Which leads to another theory that the sustainer is the herscher of binding seeing how she sealed away the twins powers and weakening them just like how Theresa was able to weaken the honkai barrier otto made somewhere between chapter 26-28

Also Alice may be Genshin’s Elysia but who knows at this point

[kevingame]

For know im gonna call the unkown goddes as ultima not the ff16 one for now until we reach the khaenri'ah act 7 and finally reunite with lumine again

[lnsflare]

Hypothesis: She's the real Prinzessin der Verurteilung, the final and most powerful divine "halberd" (probably Celestial Nail) created by the Heavens, as described in the Broken Halberd books.

[sisqofiane]

I think the unknown god is Klee mother Elisa and for her she is just following orders from someone higher than her. And The person who brings the forbidden knowledge is the first descender. For what’s happened in khaenri’ah the gods was tricked and that’s why they wants revenge from celestia.

[blckorb]

Plot twist: she’s the true collab between honkai and Genshin

[genznnGaming]

Great video, hopefully more clues on this soon. I also want to know what involvement khaenria had in this since they were nukes near to this time