Are newer CPUs actually better???

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0:00 Intro
0:39 Xeon 2623 v3 VS i3 14100
2:24 UGREEN Sponsor
3:20 The 4 core builds
4:29 Desktop performance
6:14 Gaming performance
8:33 Transcoding
10:20 Disk speed
10:53 Thats weird...
11:37 How are they as servers?
13:04 Conclusion

[dirtyvinyl]

"Are you running a fossil like this in your home lab?" brah I got the whole museum in here.

[justanothertim]

13:35 "Who's running a fossil like this in your home lab?" Cue tears as I watch this on my i7-2600k daily driver

[szszg]

Xeon user here, as I pulled it from the WEEE, did cost me 0 moneys, and good enough for everything.

[Erikaat_]

6:07 Who's gonna game in a 10yo Xeon? Until September 2023 when i upgraded to a Ryzen 5 5600, i used to run a supermicro server board with two Xeon X5650 as daily driver. So yeah, i was gaming in a 13yo Xeon platform.

[loginimpossivel]

6:07 Who is gaming with a Xeon? A lot of people.

My HTPC is a E5-2666v3 paired with a chinese RX580 that plays almost all my steam library at 30-60 fps.

That was so cheap that I made another one "for fun". Maybe some homelab stuff in the future.

[antoniocheca]

One of the things I loved about this video is that first of all shows how much processors have evolved regardless of them having similar spec numbers but also that folks should not be afraid of choosing an entry level cpu like the i3 it would be interesting if you can find a celeron/atom procs and do and updated video to contrast those as well.

[jeffcrowe]

I would rather have the older Xeon in a home lab environment over consumer. The thing you pointed out was the PCIE lanes, for those who have an extensive home lab, 10/40/100gb cards, multiple HBA's and a GPU the consumer side of thing dies when it comes to lanes. is this a perfect use case? NO but it is something to think about. Quad channel memory + ECC is sexy when rocking out truenas. I feel the Xeon got the shit end of the deal due to the Chinese motherboard only supporting dual and not quad channel memory... would it have helped... probably not but to each their own. Regardless great job on the video!

[isaacjjones]

3:55 "Hit up Gamers Nexus..." SAVAGE 💀 🤣🤣

[healthy]

Hello, I am gaming on a 10 year old Xeon :)
Bought a combo with a motherboard + 8 core CPU + 32 GB RAM on AliExpress for 50 USD (shipping included). Using it with a 2070 Super which I already had as well as a Noctua cooler.
To be honest, I have no idea how this setup compares to modern CPUs, but I only play games on rare occasions so I wanted something as cheap as possible but that could still get the job done when needed.
So far it's been quiet, cool and I am happy with the performance. Also, given how cheap it was, I won't feel bad when it inevitably comes time to upgrade!

[truckerallikatuk]

For homelab, the PCIe lanes can be more important than performance.

[bne]

I understand why you'd want to compare 4 cores vs 4 cores (regardless of massive vs baby cache). But I think it's definitely worth pointing out that for the price you paid for the 4 core Xeon, you could've bought an E5 2680 v4 (14C/28T) for the same price, if not even cheaper.

[blademan]

I think this misses the main point when one looks at an older Xeon: value. A better comparison would have been to spend a similar total amount for cpu, mobo, and gpu, at the least. Or a similar total price for all pieces. For $20 cpu and $100 gpu (like a Tesla P4 or Quadro 600, or desktop GPU), you can probably 2-3x the iGPU in the i3.
I run a TrueNas Scale with Xeon E5-2695v2s in a SuperMicro SuperServer using 12 out of 36 HDD bays primarily for Plex with an Nvidia Quadro P600 for transcode.
I love your stuff! ROWL in da house! 😂

[JGunny]

My homelab until recently consisted of 2 2500k machines and a 2400 machine. Found a couple 8th Gen i7 HP Mini pc's to migrate all my docker / vm's onto. Just need to sort something for storage now, but the difference in performance & power draw is insane.

[ashtonwell]

Running two r710's with even older xeon's and a I7-870 dailey driver. Servers were $35 bucks 5 years ago and the I7 was a dumpster find.

[Charlie_Strats]

Loved this! Would also be nice to check against a 5th gen i5, same core count similar clock speed 👌👌

[NightHawkATL]

I think the big kicker is the parts cost from Xeon to 14th gen Core CPUs. THey look good on paper but having to spend $1000+ to get there is a limiting factor for some. I like the older stuff for servers because I can typically get them to run around 140-150w at the outlet with all that I do. Plus, they are usually in rack-mount cases lol. But I do have a newer Beelink with a 12th gen and it is nice.

[mikehardy]

I think there are many people who run dinosaurs, my personal daily driver is an i5-3470 4 core 4 thread with 8GB RAM. I can only dream of more, but having said that, it still does the job 😃

[userperson]

I run about 10 years behind on daily driver machine hardware, with a few exceptions... no need to upgrade really. Lots of Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge, Haswell around here still in daily service. I do disable the Spectre/Meltdown mitigations on affected CPUs.

[Actionjack]

Yeah, I'm running one desktop with a 2650 cpu. I use it mainly for monitoring my server via remote desktop.

[Adam]

For $15 you can buy 2660v3 with 10C/20T + turbo-unlock which would kick newer CPU's butt...