Game Over! Boeing to Give Up on The 777X

Game Over! Boeing to Give Up on The 777X
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#fligavia #boeing #airbus #boeing777 #aviation
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00:00 Introduction
00:21 The Beginning of Troubles
04:00 A Reminder of the Icon of Aviation Unsafety
06:20 Workers’ Strike Worsens the Situation
09:10 Did Boeing Make a Mistake with the 777X?
11:57 Conclusion
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Game Over! Boeing to Give Up on The 777X
The Triple 7X was once expected to be the future of aviation, a testament to Boeing’s innovation and technological dominance. However, it faced significant challenges from the very beginning that contrasted with the initial expectations. So why might it turn out to be Boeing's misstep? Should the manufacturer continue placing its hopes on this aircraft? Let's find out!
The Beginning of Troubles
The first sign of trouble for Boeing's ambitious Triple 7X program emerged when the initial delivery date of 2020 quietly came and went without any progress. Specifically, Boeing had originally planned to deliver the Triple 7 Dash 9, the first model in the series, in 2020. The major customers for this aircraft include huge airlines such as Emirates, Qatar Airways, Lufthansa, Singapore Airlines, and Etihad Airways, all of which had placed substantial orders to bolster their long-haul fleets.
Game Over! Boeing to Give Up on The 777X
However, the delivery timeline was not met. This was primarily due to challenges in developing and certifying new technologies, including the aircraft's unique folding wingtips and advanced control systems. Additionally, stricter requirements from the FAA following the 737 Max crisis further delayed the approval process.
Emirates, the airline with the largest order of over 150 aircraft, was expected to be the first customer to receive the Triple 7X. However, after numerous delays, the delivery timeline has now been pushed back to 2026, leaving customers frustrated and considering alternatives like the Airbus A350 to meet their fleet needs. This marked the beginning of a troubling pattern, exposing fundamental issues in Boeing's approach.
What caused this?
Game Over! Boeing to Give Up on The 777X
First, the technical challenges Boeing faced with the Triple 7X program were far more complex than initially anticipated. Among them, certifying the aircraft's unique folding wingtips became a regulatory labyrinth that the manufacturer was not adequately prepared to navigate. The Federal Aviation Administration, still in a phase of reform following the 737 Max crisis, applied unprecedentedly stringent evaluation standards. The FAA scrutinized every detail of the Triple 7X design - from control systems and aerodynamics to operational safety protocols - prolonging the approval process significantly.
Furthermore, Boeing's decision to upgrade the existing Triple 7 series rather than design an entirely new aircraft added to the pressure. This choice not only confronted the company with more complex technical challenges but also placed the entire project under intense scrutiny from the FAA and other international regulatory bodies.

[svenandhelga]

Why the clickbate title? There's no current intention for Boeing to scrap the 777x program.

[bphelan]

See what happens when you let accountants run a company. These AHs couldn't tell the the difference between a spanner and a screwdriver. Hopefully soon another arrogant company will bite the dust

[joyyt]

Men will never forget the history of Boeing if it is bankrupt

[neilpickup]

Cards on table, I prefer Airbus to Boeing. However, it is a preference not a blinkered love for one and hatred for the other.

I see the 777 as a brilliant aircraft without that much competition before the A350. As the 777 was a clean-sheet design, I see little, or possibly no validity in comparing the 777x with the 737Max, especially when you consider that its predecessor, the NG was its third iteration. Due to adveances in understanding and design since the 737 was concieved, it could be argued that the 737 classic should have been the end of that line of aircraft, a line which can trace its roots back to the early 50s and the proof of concept. This concept was then adapted to become what we now know as the 707/720/727/737 lines of aircraft.

I wonder if the 777x is a mistake on the part of Boeing. It could be described as more of a replacement for the 747-400 than the original 777, which brand loyalty aside, you have to question if the A350 is better positioned to be?

Personally, I wonder if a stretched 787 with appropriately sized wings for that increase would have been a better replacement for the old 777 than the 777x.

It is almost as if Boeing realised that they couldn't make a better A350 using the 777 as the starting point, and since they did not want to scrap the 777 and start again, they decided to move the positioning of the 777x to a place where the A350 would not compete so well. Unfortunately, that market segment was perfectly covered by the 747-400, and as we now know, aircraft with its capacity are nowhere near as popular as they once were. Many had already been replaced with the incredibly successful original 777.

I know thaat some will use stats to show that the 777x will have the lowest costs per passenger mile, however that is dependent upon those additional seats being occupied. it is often forgotten that seat cost usually falls if you simplify stretch an aircraft design, however, journey costs inevitably increase. Having more seats than you require can seriously affect your bottom line.

Only the most blinkered would dispute that Boeing abandoned the 757s segment, leaving Airbus the ability to satisfy most of it with relatively cheap upgrades to the A321neo. I wonder if we will see something similar when many 777s become ready for replacement, and some airlines may find that it is the A350 that more closely fits their requirements, rather than the more capacious 777x?

[Kyleinasailing]

I very much doubt Boeing will give up on the you after putting so much into the project ? Of course not. So, don't waste peoples time please.

[johanplane]

Do you even have any proof to back the allegation that "Boeing to Give Up on The 777X" Otherwise this is nothing but a clickbait!

[onesimourbiztondo]

Biggest Airbus fan, putting the cart before the horse 😁😁😁

[jaromasar]

Why would anybody order obsolete 777x,

[dogbadger]

The thing that surprises me about the 777 is the unit cost. I know there are a lot of changes from the predecessor but nevertheless it's a development of an existing well established type.
I don't understand why it's so much more expensive than an only slightly smaller a350 that is a totally new design.

[christopheblanchi]

The original 777 was revolution. The 777 X is not revolutionary at all. What would be revolutionary would be for Boeing to deliver a plane on schedule, on budget and with better than expected performance. That we will probably never seen ever again.
Boeing will forever be a case study in MBA programs on how MBAs and beancounters can destroy and legendary company.

[MrDdady]

the story is being repeated again and again.

[merrystoneequestrianfarm]

I hate your rubbish lying clickkbait headlines - I have stopped following you¹

[XAviation-pf]

boeing is in big truble every airline is shifting towars arbus

boeing is domed airbus is the future

[charlestoast]

I question the claimed fuel efficiency of the 777X. The wing has five flap housings, or canoes, on each wing, compared with just three on the A350. Boeing also have to use vortex generators on their wings, which increase drag. The A350 doesn't need them, and the wing surface is also smoother, being carbon. The seat mile efficiency of the 777X has to rely on the GE9X engines and the increased passenger capacity.

[laurentiutrifan]

It would be a wrong decision ... to abandon 777X. They just need a new approach. 🙂
And I will give them this new approach ... if the US won't escalate the Ukraine proxy war into WW III. 😉

[rajnirvan]

Should have just stuck with B777-300ER. Just given it a few changes as it was to me their best seller for most airlines. Also this B777X has been all but a commercial debacle

[KaranS-xl]

They won't give up on it, there is just too many orders that they would lose to the Airbus and their A350 program.

If they can get their bearings straight, and push this out, it will be the "Phoneix" of Boeing.

[christopheblanchi]

The folding winglets are a costly gimmick. If the wings were folding half way, it would have been worth it, but only the last 3 meters? What a waste of effort. It probably would have been simpler to figure out a way to fit the 777 at gates rather than certifying these folding ends of wings.

Boeing is no longer an engineering leader. It fumbles, and shows a constant inability to rise up to the challenge. Boeing is nothing but a shadow of the company it once was. At this point, the question is when Boeing will go bankrupt, not if.

[remeshmahadevaiyer]

Seems this great name in aviation is in big big trouble, will it come out of this turbulence?

[openbabel]

This is another 737 disaster...greed stretches the 777 beyond its design envelope, the technology fails with too bigger engines, unstoppable forces twisting the structure, and a fuselage too long for controllability....Its a finished company on life support and tries to repeat the mistakes of th failed 737 disaster? Madness

Boeing should like the max firer the CEO, finishing the scrappage programs for the max, demonstrate they can actually build and airliner which flies and can demonstrate its not going to kill more passengers.

Develop the 777 bt not like the max, get rid of the notion of extending the passenger cabin, take out the rear fuselage sections. Loose the wing tips, add a hybrid tai engine, place a new canard wing behind the cockpit.

The only saviour for this titanic of a company is to go back to basics and start manufacturing a single isle 757 developed aircraft to compete with the xlr., Firer the ceo today...