What has Cameron learned from @CapturingChristianity?

In this in-person interview, I chat with Cameron Bertuzzi about five dimensions along which he's grown since starting his YouTube channel.

OUTLINE

0:00 Introduction
3:13 What he’s learned: Interpersonally
11:05 What he’s learned: Intrapersonally
19:34 What he’s learned: YouTube
24:45 What he’s learned: Doing Philosophy
36:40 What he’s learned: Theologically

LINKS

Cam's channel is, obviously, @CapturingChristianity

[RealAtheology]

What a fantastic video. It was awesome to hear about Cameron's growth on these issues. We think he provides a lot of valuable advice for both Atheists and Theists to follow and it will be excited to follow his subsequent journeys to come.

[jordand]

I don’t have time to watch right now, and will watch later, but I saw the preview had cam wearing a bob ross shirt and wanted to comment and say that he was already super likeable, but wearing that just takes his likeability to new heights. God bless, from a catholic fan.

[hepatitis]

"Clickbait is okay as long as you deliver on the bait."- Camerron

Yes i agree!

[anthonynuzzo]

Great show as always. I think a show with you and Joe together would be fantastic. However, when you are speaking my friend I find my attention drifting from what ought to be the case, i.e. grasping the ideas you are discussing, to counting the number of times you say "like". Some friendly constructive criticism, your use of the word "like" I suspect as a pause mechanism to gather your thought is tedious to be kind. It seems generational. I'm 53 so I am a bit older than you. Your generation and after have adopted the "like" pause and substituting the word "feel" instead of "think" to, I think, its detriment. (Pun Intended!) God bless my friend and well done

[robertoriosorozco]

Bro bro! Your thumbnail was definitely clickbait for me 😂 Nice to meet you

[deathnote]

Cool video

Joe Will you request Dr pruss for a written discussion for this channel?

[thecloudtherapist]

I think Joe has found his calling: being an interviewer.

His taste in football teams, that's another matter, though! 😆😉

[BatmanArkham]

I am a simple monke I see Joe's video in my notifications I click :)

[zombieinjeans]

The argument about people in hell continuing to sin makes sense, as long as some people actually do eventually leave. Sure, some people continually reject God, but tons of people, when given the direct evidence of God's existence, so many people would change their mind immediately. The reason I "sin, " is because I don't believe in God or sin or eternal life or any of it. I have my own ethics. If I died and woke up in hell, I'd immediately become a believer and try to change. I literally can't believe in God as I am now, like my mind just won't let me. I can't just make myself believe in something that I don't believe. If God exists, he gave me this mind that can't believe in him. Once I was in hell, that would obviously be pretty convincing evidence and I could easily believe then. If I'm punished for eternity for that, then I really hope that kind of God doesn't exist.

[Syed_]

( Do Christians And Jews and "OTHER" non-Muslims go to Heaven? )

Quran 2:62
'' Those who believe (in the Quran) and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures) and the Christians and the Sabians->ANY<- who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear nor shall they grieve.( ie On judgement day )

Note: The idea of “salvation” in Islam is here made conditional upon three elements only: 1) belief in God, 2) belief in the Day of Judgment, 3) righteous action in life.

( According to the Quran Christians and Jews worship TRUE God )

(Quran 3:113-114)
'' Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book (ie Christians and Jews ) are a portion that stand (For the right) They rehearse the Signs of God all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous.''

Note: According to the Quran that Jesus is not God nevertheless Christians still worship one TRUE God.

( >Allah< Is The Protector Of Monasteries, Churches, Synagogues And The Mosques )

Quran 22:40
[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, " Our Lord is God " And were it not that God checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of God is much mentioned. And God will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, God is Powerful and Exalted in Might.

Note: Why did Allah protected Churches and Synagogues if they worship false Allah ?

( Why Are There So Many Different Religions In The World ? )

Quran 5 48
If God wanted He could have made all of you a single nation.( ie single religion ) But He willed otherwise in order to test you in what He has given you (ie Scriptures) therefore try to excel one another in good deeds. Ultimately you all shall return to God then He will show you the truth of those matters in which you '' >DISPUTE<''

NOTE:
Quran 3:85
'' If anyone desires a religion other than Islam ( ie "submission" to God ) never will it be accepted of him and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost ( ie entry into Heaven )

My explanation of above verse

The word Islam is a > verb < not noun like other religions

Islam mean "submission" to God

( The above verse saying is that God will not accept a religion from the >MUSLIM< and the Non-Muslims but total "submission" to God )

Question: How Can Muslim And the Non-Muslim "submit" to the God?

Answer: Be kind to other human beings and Do not lie, Do not steal, Do not cheat, Do not hurt others, Do not be prideful and Do the charity work.

Note: If you obeyed all the ABOVE Allah-God's moral laws "YOU" submitted to God.( ie Islam mean "submission" to God )

The only people who will enter Paradise those who '' Submitted to God '' ( ie by Good Deeds )

God does NOT accept your religion of birth but only ''Your Total'' Submission to Him.

( God Allows Interfaith Marriages And Eat Food From the Christian And Jew And Vice Versa )

Quran 5:5
''This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And lawful in marriage are chaste women from among the believers (ie Muslim ) and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless and he in the Hereafter will be among the losers.''

Note: > Only < Islam allows interfaith marriages (>14 hundreds<) years ago. Today even Sunni Muslim and Shia Muslim do NOT marry each-other. ( Shame )

( Muslim, Christian, Jew And All The Other Human Being Worship The '' Same God '' With Their Own Ancestral-Inherent Understand of God )

Quran 29:46
'' And do not argue with Christian and Jew except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you.>>And our God and your God is one<< and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."

Note: God is God of all- every humans not just Abrahimic faiths. It will be a shirk to set up a God for others. God answered prayed regardless of anyone religion.

All the world MAJOR religions came from >Same God< but They are >ALL Corrupt< more or less, some more than others from their original foundational teaching. The older religion are MORE corrupted than newer religion.

Question to Muslim and Christian:

Does God / Allah only answer your pray ?

And God / Allah does not answer non Muslim / non Christian pray?

Did Allah '' Canceled '' all other religions Judaism and Christianity?

Quran 5:48
'' And We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture ( ie New and old Testament ) and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. >>>TO EACH OF YOU WE PRESCRIBED A LAW AND A METHOD<<< Had Allah willed, He would have made you >>one nation<< [ ie single religion], but [He intended] to test you in what He has given you; so race to [all that is] good. To Allah-God is your return all together, and He will [then] inform you concerning that over which you used to >>differ<<.''

Note: Judaism, Christianity and other religion are valid path to God.

( Allah says to Jew to follow Old Testament 'NOT' The Quran and not to follow the Prophet Muhammad)

( Allah says ) Quran 5:43 '' And how do they ( ie Jew ) make you ( ie Muhammad ) a > Judge < while they have the Old Testament wherein is Allah's judgement

What is The '''' Quranic '''' Ruling Regarding The Fate of Non Muslims?

Quran 4:123
'' Paradise is not [obtained] by your ==>( ie Muslim) wishful thinking > NOR < by that of the People of the Scripture ( ie Christian and Jew ) Whoever does a wrong will be recompensed for it, and he will not find besides God a protector or a helper.

Question to Sunni Muslim:

Do you believe only Muslim go to Heaven and which Sunni sect of Muslim go to heaven? { There are many Sunni Muslim sects } Hanafi? Shafi? Hanbali? Maliki? Salafi? Sufi ? etc?

Did Allah chooses you to be born in Muslim family or it was your choice ?

Did non-Muslim chose to be born in non-Muslim family ?

Muslim you are going to heaven NOT because you chose Islam to be your religion BUT because you born in Muslim family.... correct ?

Non-Muslim will go to hellfire because they born in non-Muslim family.... correct?

It is fair for non-Muslim to find truth outside their religion to go to Heaven while you don't ?

( You '' MUST '' know how to become > qualified < for to enter Paradise )

On the day of judgement God will ''NOT'' judge humanity bases on Sunni Muslim sect VS Shia Muslim sect ''NOR'' by Muslim VS non-Muslim >but< Doer of Goods VS Doer of Evils.

'' YOUR " birth in the Muslim's family is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.

'' YOUR " religion / sect / foot long beard is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.

The > qualification < to enter Paradise is > Faith in God and Good Work <.

Quran 41;30
''Surely those who say, “ Our Lord is God ” and then remain steadfast, the angels descend upon them saying Do not fear nor grieve. Rather, rejoice in the good news of Paradise, which you have been promised''

Note: On the day of judgement Angels will gives good news of Paradise to those who did good deeds to '' CALM '' you down so you do not panic.

In the sight of Allah Atheist and non-Muslim are equal in deeds?

( Atheist In The Quran )

Quran 25:44
'' Or do you think that most of them hear or reason? They are not except like livestock. Rather, they are [even] more astray in [their] way.''

( Christians In The Quran )

Quran 5:82
you will find the nearest in love to the believers (ie Muslims) those who say: " We are Christians " That is because amongst them are priests and monks and they do not behave proudly ''

Christians, Atheists, Rapists, Killers and Shia-Muslim destined to HELLFIRE all together ?

Ethiopian's Christian King Najashi who ''SAVED'' early Muslims lives will he go to hell?

Abu Talib who protected the Prophet of Allah will he go to hell?

Abu Lahab, Pharaoh, Satan and Prophet Muhammad's beloved mother Aminah, will be in HELLfire... correct ?

Explain to me why does Prophet's mother DESERVED Hellfire? she died BEFORE her son's Prophet-hood.

I am 100% SURE if Prophet's mother lives to see her son Prophet-hood she would have accepted Islam.

Your mother will enter Heaven and your Prophet's mother will enter HellFire.

My final conclusion:

The '' BASIC '' message of God to the human is that '' YOU '' believe in God and be kind to other human beings / ANIMALS and in the RETURNED God will reward you with a new life in Paradise.

* The Quran ONLY guides you how to become a good human being "Nothing Else".

* You are a good human being or a bad human being that is YOUR choice.

* No one can force you to become a good human being.

* You MUST work HARD to become a good human being.

* Why should ''YOU'' do good deeds and avoid bad deeds?

* Do Good - it's for You. Do Bad - It's against you.

* '' YOUR'' life is a TEST from God that you will choose to do either Good or Bad.

* Find the excuse to help others and forgive others NOT the other way around.

* '' YOUR '' final destination is either Hell or Heaven.

* So work HARD toward choice of YOUR destination.

Quran 17:7
" If you do good, you will do so for your own good. And if you do evil, it will be to your own loss."
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[Tylermania]

I like when either of your channels talk about anxiety in relation to these big questions. I haven't found people addressing that topic anywhere else.

[TheBrunarr]

good questions, good responses, good video!

[BatmanArkham]

Joe Have you read Andrew Loke's recent 2022 book which is Open access *The Teleological and Kalam Cosmological Arguments Revisited (Palgrave Frontiers in Philosophy of Religion)*

[MaverickChristian]

Cool. It was nice to meet you in person at CC Exchange. 😎

[TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns]

Joe, it’s me, Meow. If I donated to a charity of your choosing, would you ever do a 60-min phone chat with me on why Christian Universalism is a better option than both ECT and annihilationism? Philosophically, theologically, and, yes… Biblically. I can’t seem to get (some of!) the naysayers to even *mention* (let alone engage or refute) the best philosophical, theological, and biblical cases for Christ-mediated universalism.

[anitkythera]

@35:00 ish… is it the case that in the Dunning-Kruger effect that there is a tendency for self-assessment of competency to go down as your expertise in the subject goes up? I thought it was that people grossly overestimate their competence in unknown fields but this is quickly corrected as they begin to learn how little they know or can do but that this self assessment quickly tracks actual competency.

[ElliottWong]

You seem like a nice guy. Too bad you're an Arsenal fan. From a Manchester United fan. Don't worry - we are even worse.

[stevesteves]

Cameron is such a good looking fella. No homo.

[foodmagic]

Arsenal fan here too😌
Wanted to know do you have a quick refutation of hilbert hotel?
Love your channel 💗

[samuelbourassa]

Great discussion Joe and Cameron!
Joe, I'm curious about your reservations toward Molinism?
Is it related to the grounding objection? Or something else?