Ni vs Ne Eyes

[Nina-noqj]

Hence, the Ni “staring problem.” I can be looking in your direction, but that doesn’t mean I’m focusing on you. Or if I’m focusing on you, it’s not just “you, ” but how you interact with the environment.

[ohifonlyx]

Yeah, I have me them Ne eyes... the corner of the ceiling is where my brain thinks the teleprompter should be.

[TheJenemba]

Am I the only one that started looking around, trying to mimic how I normally look with my eyes? I know I can't be :p

[def]

I agree Ni feels wreid as if you look at things, but don't see them sometimes, and see more in a way, but not stuff you look at.
I agree it's not tunnel vission. I'm aware of everything around me, but it's often blurry in my mind, because I kinda look more about concepts and mental than physical.
-ENTJ

[jessicajabr]

As a presumed NI dominant, I can confirm on the not looking at one thing directly but being able to have a vision of what’s on the right and left and even Infront of you when you are looking down. I actually have a thing where when I’m asleep completely with my eyes closed, I will wake up if someone or even my dog stands at the entrance of my bedroom, they don’t even have to make any noise. I just know the second someone is near and automatically wake up. You did well on describing Ni vrs Ne eyes!

[FredericaTommo]

body language interests me so much, I think we can all learn so much from it! there's still so much to discover and study :) thank you for making this video, I had been looking for a clear explanation for a while, and you delivered it! all the love x

[globelights]

When Ni users are in their comfort zone their eyes look/act like Ni but when Ni users are in any anxious nerve-wrecking situations they can start a bit of Ne eye movements.

[waykee]

I am not sure if this theory is correct: Ni does not move their eyes much because they are not looking at the object only (Se) but they are just disengaged from themselves (Ni) looking at everything equally (big picture).

[ViperCannabis]

I find that talking to my ESTP coworker's pretty awkward as an ENTP. I always look everywhere except him when we talk but somehow, some way we always have a very productive conversation, and have both subtle and outbursts of laugh. Its weird though, how he can focus talking to me and everyone else at the room at the same time. Its like when hes there, he likes to make his presence known to EVERYONE!

[amirulzamri]

I have the Ni-eyes, I just spaced out a lot constantly since everything is buffering in my head. The Se really picks up the details then feed it to my Ni.

[JanKatrinaGuanzon]

Me as an Ne dom can relate to always looking around to recall or construct my words when I'm talking. When my words are polished enough I can directly stare into their eyes but most of the time I'm not 🤣 because most of the time I don't think carefully enough when I'm talking to someone. I just blew it all out of my mouth even if it's not yet finish processing.

[pamelavera]

INFP here. High Ne user especially when I’m with people, but if I need to figure something out that’s complicated I need to be alone. I use Ni when I can’t figure something out with Ne/Si and it usually works. Just stare into space until the answer hits me. I didn’t realize what I was doing until learning about cognitive functions lol

[maryamyaz]

I love how to use your words, I am Arabic and I do not speak English very well but I can understand you, this is wonderful❤️❤️❤️❤️

[stevepeterson]

Infj here, Very nice. Yep, you got it with the diffuse "seeing" not looking : )
My buddy was in the early trainings with Richard Bandler, we've had some deep "chats."
He also administers biofeedback, with the gear and the guages. I learned so much about breathing and breathing naturally from that. Nlp has been an interest for a few decades, good stuff, been in some interesting circles. Used to crew for T. Robbins, incredible training.
Good vid, thanks!

[heatherbryant]

This is interesting! I don't know how valid vultology & typing via microexpressions is, but I have certainly noticed patterns with Ne/Si vs Ni/Se in both eye movenents and speech patterns. The intense stare you mentioned is actually something I associate more with Se (which is, of course, linked to Ni) but Se-doms, in particular, tend to make intense eye contact. You didn't mention this in your video, but NJs are often said to have an "Ni toggle" where their eyes make small but rapid movements side to side on a horizontal plane (could also be called "lateral/horizontal nystagmus" for any med students out there). Linking to the idea you discussed about the parts of your memory or thinking you're accessing when your eyes move in a certain direction, I was just thinking, the "Ni toggle" could be associated with rapidly going back & forth between accessing auditory memory and language construction. This got me thinking about Dario Nardi's research and how INTJs show activity in the T4 region of their brain, which picks up on tone of voice. Seems to check out!

[moonlightchild]

Damn! Someone so quickly just simplified that daydreaming, double-reality imagination land I could never really understand...”that focus of unfocus.” That’s cool 😎

[JellyIsland]

Haha 😂As an INFJ I always get those unfocused Ni eyes 👀 I had no idea that it had to do with being an NJ but it kind of makes sense. 🤔 It feels like taking a break from all sensory stuff and being able to be more inside my head and kind of widen your mind and view.. ^^

[Ncoherent]

Hm... Well it's difficult because an INFP has Si and Ne. So it's like they're generating possibilities with external connections intuitively using Ne, but then they're also reflecting on past experience, and their own experience, (Si) is on axis with their Ne. So their own past experiences will have influence over the possibilities they're generating. And also, the way they view their memories will be kept responsible with external intuitive connections.

A person with Ni+Se like maybe an INFJ, will use their physical eyes to look at the experience as a whole with Se (versus just their own experience with Si) and they will make internal connections intuitively with Ni.
So when an Ni user seems to be looking at one object, but they also see the rest of the surroundings along with it? That is definitely an Se thing, especially since your physical sight, and other physical senses have everything to do with Se.

Then the whole looking down and recalling thing, would be Si.

If we're talking Ne/Ni,
Ne would likely be the function that picks up on everything in your surroundings, and the more short term, immediate future. Where as Ni is going to be what is very focused and more like tunnel vision. That's what let's Ni users see into the more distant future.

Ne you get a wider, shorter range. Where with Ni, you get a narrower, but longer, more focused range.
Ne is quicker and Ni is slower.
All the extroverted functions are faster than the introverted functions. But the introverted functions are going to be able to let a person see that deeper level.

Te is quick and rational, but can sometimes mistake something that sounds reasonable, or rational, for the actual truth.
Where as, with Ti, you're going to have less speed than Te, but you're going to be able to find the gaps and inconsistencies that Te missed. It's kind of like Te is running and hustling to organize everything rationally, while Ti is slowly walking, taking it all in to slowly put together a more detailed picture. So Ti will let you see that deeper truth with logic, but it is at the expense of the efficiency and speed that rationale has (Te). - Just an example of the differences between extraverted and introverted variants of functions.

Anyone that uses Ni will have Se and anyone that uses Ne will have Si. So that may be why it seems like Ni+Se users have a widened more broad physical view of things as opposed to a Ne+Si user.
But while that may be true on a physical level, on an intuitive level, the Ne user is going to have a wider intuitive view, while the Ni user is actually going to have the narrower intuitive view.

[lishayost]

When I'm thinking about stuff or talking, I'm always looking back and forth at things in the room. Usually go to the same spots over and over almost in a pattern. I haven't paid too much detailed attention to it, but I've just noticed that I tend to look around at various spots when I'm thinking or talking, and usually it is up, toward the ceiling. I'm INTP.

I read some comments and an INFP person stated that when they're trying to figure something out they stare in one spot and I realized I do that too. So when I'm talking or thinking random thoughts (stream of consciousness) I look around a lot. But when I'm trying to figure something out that is difficult, I stare in one spot.

[juhoyla-outinen]

The conclusions that can be drawn here indicate not only that typical type behaviours can be tracked to the level of cerebral actions but also that they are used by all people, some just have them more frequently than the others. We are all humans after all with similar capabilities.