Theistic Evolution: The Problem with Darwinian Evolution According to an Atheist

J. P. Moreland presents an argument from the perspective on an atheist, which he is not.

[lightinferno]

I appreciate the man's honesty. Seems that no matter how hard we as humans try, we can't get away from the fact we have a creator.

[jaaaspokenjay]

Just argument from incredulity to argument from incredulity.

[flolou]

What's wrong with coming to the conclusion that we are '' deliberately 'created'' and not ''evolved sponataneously''

[IbnMurrah]

*“I don’t want there to be a God”*

So even if He’s there, you’re just gonna pretend. Thanks for being honest though.

[yamnjam]

So there was this magical primordial soup and some critter that lived in it decided it wanted to crawl out and begin living on land. What was this critter? If it emerged by itself, how did it reproduce? Unless it was a male and female critter that decided to abandon the soup at the same time, there's no way for any species to survive all alone. Evolution seems like glorified morphing. I'd love for someone to tell me exactly what emerged from that soup and in what order. And how it reproduced.

[oddoutdoors]

We don't know therefore my preferred explanation for which there is no evidence is correct. That's called an argument from ignorance, it's a logical fallacy. Which means that the argument is invalid as that is the entire argument.

[abdulkader]

i see a lot of triggered atheists by saying natural selection is not random
the problem is that natural selection is not the primary mover of evolution
but rather it is random mutation
because randomness by definition is we know the cause but the cause is blind
but chance if we say something happened by chance we don't deny the causation but we say we are ignorant of it
a good book for that is "not by chance"
and also the original material that natural selection works on is random (since it is random mutation) because natural selection doesn't add anything it is just a filtration mechanism
so yes it is random
and the atheists were saying he doesn't understand lol

[Ashgreyed]

This man shows a fundamental lack of understanding of how gene replication works and how mistakes in transcribing the information leads to mutations. Keep in mind deletion of genes is only one of four types of genetic mutation, the others being translocation, redundant copies, and insertion.

[peperando]

Darwin didn't want for a God to exist? Mate Darwin was a believer, he had that it saddened him that his research proved contrary to what he believed

[ilhamh]

The day the sun rises from the WEST, everybody will eventually accept that there is a God, but to no avail...

[nicolassbrown]

Evolution is based on an argument from personal credulity, where a person accepts a theory too eagerly without examining it in greater depth. According to evolutionary theory, complexity is generated by random mutation - the role of natural selection is only to preserve it . To say that evolution is not random is like saying that winning the lottery is not random - because the part where you go to collect your winnings is not random! Theistic evolution and atheistic evolution are both systems of belief that cloud objective thinking. Find out more at www.lifewithoutevolution.uk

[dawidszarek]

Can anyone explain the fact that there is still soft tissue in bones being found, saying these were once dinosaurs. If dinosaurs existed millions of years ago why is there soft tissue? The soft tissue could literally be stretched as well. Though I understand someone may not know, come up with a hypothesis and tell me. I just don’t want some nasty comments accusing me of anything because I believe in God, our lord and savior.

[ClovisStarNews]

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[eniszita]

This is called argument from personal incredulity. Which is in no way related to science. The scientific process is just fine with the answer 'we don't know' to issues that well, we don't know. Like bio genesis. For millennia humans did not know where birds migrated to in the winter. Now we know. The same thing may happen with many of these questions.

[bobp]

Humans and animals are VERY different.

[JFK-iryz]

Explosions destroy things.
Never in history has an explosion created anything, let alone living organisms.

[MetallicPetals]

This man underestimates how long a billion years is, let alone 4 and 13 billion years are. That said, it isn't random, imagine that you have a collection of sheep, now breed those who have the traits you want, may it be their cuteness or fluffiness. So you only let the cutest one breed and have children, if you continue to do so the sheep will get cuter and cuter. I haven't heard anyone disprove that. And in nature, the Shepard is the nature itself which works in an indirect way, the sheep may need to grow fluffier to stay warm during harsh and cold winters and so the ones with the thicker fur have a higher chance of surviving and passing on their genes. Again, simple biology and no one disproves this, but why can not small changes become large ones with enough time? The first feathers looked like some sort of strange hairs and they evolved into the feathers of a peacock, yes it is still a feather but the point is that with enough time, large changes are inevitable.

Edit: One atheist doesn't speak for all of us, the only common factor between any two atheists is that they do not believe in a God. An atheist who believes in spirits and ghouls and such things is just as much of an atheist as someone who doesn't as ghouls and spirits aren't gods. Please don't lump us all together like this, it's like saying that all religions are the exact same because they believe in a or multiple gods. So by that logic, there is no difference between Christianity and Hinduism, both belief in a or multiple Gods. That is the exact logic you use against us. And why does the origin of life play any role in evolution at all? Evolution *only* and I mean ONLY cares about living organisms such as you and I.

[matteomastrodomenico]

Yeah, I don't believe one bith that this guy is an atheist or scientist.

[quincyjones]

So basically you don’t understand actual science. Got it 👍🏽

[bhaktiyogadivine]

It's high time science accepts consciousness is independent of matter.