Lets discuss the 1.2 puretec engine

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Hi there! I wanted to try something a little different today, if it goes well ill do more on other types of engines and gearboxes etc... Lets discuss today the 1.2 puretech engine briefly and a well known common problem.

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I have a 1.2 puretech 110hp from 2020. I change the belt at 99, 000km's, which correspond to the manufacturer's recommendation, but even so, "the low oil pressure" warning light appeared. Fortunately, nothing was damaged. The engine is fine thanks to the quick intervention, but what needed to be replaced... Replacement of the timing belt, as material fatigue was already visible as in the video. Completele flushing of the engine oil circuit to clean it of all rubber particles and sawdust from the belt. Replacing the oil pump, as there is a risk that some particles could get into it, causing it to fail. Finally new oil and filters.

I always used the prescribed oil and changed it with filters every 10, 000km's. It didn't help.

In the eyes of the average costumer, it is a great engine. The power is sufficent for normal driving and is quiet. Also can be economical, but this engine is simply defective.

danokurilec
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This is a massive problem across Europe but it’s being covered up.

BIBIWCICC
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I had the 3 cylinder 1.2cc engine in my peugeot 206 on a low mileage 66 plate, I was always topping up the oil every 3-4 weeks, It used as much oil as it did fuel, I sold it on.

jllyroger
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Mines just knackered the brake booster pump. It’s with Peugeot now. Was meant to be a recall but we never got a letter. Peugeot should be footing the bill!

Jake
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Got a second hand corsa with this engine. Car came with around 24k km’s when we bought it. Did around 2.5k more on it and its still doing pretty fine. Its not the smoothest per say but gets good mileage and works great with 8at transmission (although sometimes kicks in a little bit harsh while shifting between 2nd and 3rd).130 bhp for a small car such as this is pretty decent imo. Reliability on the other hand….

maddylmaz
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I think you will end up with oil burning issues even if you do everything correctly. Probably with really tight oil change interval (like 5k km) you can avoid it but it's unknown as nobody does that. These engines are so cheap it doesn't make sense to open them up and change piston rings, at least if you are paying someone to do it. Regardless of all the issues this engine has, I enjoy working on it as everything is pretty easy to get to and work on.

Nakkilauta
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For 1.2 puretech engines; just use right engine oil coded "B71 2302 or B71 2297" These engine oils are formulated to avoid damaging the timing belt. Other than these engine oils that you think are of high quality will damage the belt. just use B71 2302 or B71 2297 PSA approved engine oils..

orhanoglu
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Crazy that they are still producing this type of engine

mrobrien
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I got one from new, 66.000 timing belt and oil pickup clean. Never had any problems. Drive it like its a race car

tycoonyo
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112.239km and no problems.. timing belt changed on 45.000.. it works like new...

arinsa
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The Puretech 1.2 110/130 turbo engine came out of factory with the wrong spark plugs (Bosch ZR6SPP3320) which were too hot causing miss firing,
plug failure, pre ignition problems and in some cases cylinder bore damage. PSA tried to sweep it under the carpet changing the plugs free as vehicles came in for service. Correct plugs are Bosch ZR5SPP3320(cooler).
As has been said correct oil must be used and changed annually, especially if low mileage and short trips to protect the cambelt. Oh and no oil additives or flush because they attack the belt.

tenfootvoyager
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You want a bullet proof engine? get an old Ford 'Kent' crossflow.
I only found out about this litte gem of a problem AFTER I bought a Peugeot!!! Who thought that it was a good idea to put a rubber belt inside an engine Checking my vehicle history the other day, I discovered that it has had a new belt AND oil pump fitted and I'm only the 3rd owner from new! It's a 2017 car on a 66 plate. One previous owner racked up over 20, 000 miles in 1 year. This will be the shortest time I've owned a car and after this one, I'm going back to a Toyota!

baylessnow
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Got a disabled friend with a Citroen C3 Aircross bought brand new late 2018, main dealer serviced by the book and currently on around 30k.
He gets me to check his levels every 3 weeks or so and it usually needs a top up of oil and there is no leak.
My 2003 Jaguar XJ6 on the other hand on 120k miles doesn't use a drop between yearly oil changes, which is usually around 3-4k miles.
I warned him when he was looking around to buy it, steer well clear of small overstressed turbocharged engines, producing ridiculously high bhp per litre.
My instincts proven correct!

matthewjenkins
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Mines done 27000 and serviced by vauxhaull all its life but the belt is cracking i, m in dispute with them now ! They say they cant see anything wrong even though you can see it through the oil cap that its clearly cracking !!!

evanson
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My friend had a Peugeot 3008 6 month old with this engine, and failed when driving to Germany, something to do with the spark plug and piston. Peugeot tried to say he was driving too fast 😂, he was being careful with it being his new car.

stanncol
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Avoid all Stellantis group brands if you are looking for recent and reliable gasoline with after-sales service. Former owners of a 1.2L Puretech 110hp, we only had problems with: faulty segmentation, excess oil consumption from 60000 km, 1L every 1000 km, ventilation broken, belt in the oil to replace, speakers sometimes broken. We understood that keeping this Peugeot would be a financial pit. We sold it to a professional because Peugeot, well aware of the problems with their cars, does not do trade-ins.
Thanks for the video

PaulRFRT
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Simply put. You don't put hot oil near nowhere near rubber or nylon belts. Period.

ricardoe
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I bet you’ve got a review coming on the ford 1.0 ecoboost engine. Think they have 1 or 2 issues with them I believe.

tonyc
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What about new Jeep avenger? 1.2 puretech with chain or the classic one? I ordered one and I 'm really confused !

ΜαρίναΠαπαδάκη
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Absolute nightmare
Just had one with blocked pump grill. Cleaned and fortunately pump seems ok.
However apart from the strip down nightmare to get to the belt, some models require you to remove the phaser cam pullies. The turbo models I think. These are sophisticated bits of kit and even one tooth out on fitting back and all kinds of error messages. I’m still trying to cure P0014 and P003c errors on bank 1.
Checked VVT solenoids and still no go. Starts and sounds superb. But after just one minutes drive it goes into limp mode.
If I had a car with this engine I would pass it on as soon as possible. Cam belt in oil?!!!!
WHAT!!!’

joeninety