EV CHARGER INSTALLATION PART 3: CONNECTIONS includes CT Hack!

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In this EV charger installation training session, we look at mains and internet connections for an INDRA Smart Pro EV charger. We show you how to use EV ultra cable to connect to the internet and the incoming supply current transformer (CT).

More in the Smart Pro EV charging series

EV Charger Installation - Part One. - Installation planning

EV Charger Installation - Part Two - Earthing

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More in the Smart Pro EV charging series
EV Charger Installation - Part One. - Installation planning
EV Charger Installation - Part Two - Earthing

efixx
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Hi thanks for a very clear video and I'm sorry I've only taken 10 minutes or so to read some of the other comments, but the questions that come to mind straight away is,
it looks like your using a single pole RCBO, I think chapter 722 says the supply RCD should be double pole, also I assume there is an RCD in the charger, which means you have RCD's in series, does that have to be type B in the board and type A in the charger? we've only done a couple of chargers so far, using SWA cable so no RCD required in the board. it really is about time BSI used plain English to make the regulations less ambiguous, thanks again

surreyelectrical
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Sounds like I'm going to need to get my panel heater calibrated....
I can't imagine trying to explain to the customer that I'm testing the charger like that. Plug in the kettle, toaster, bit of breakfast it's commissioned 🤣

pauldurkin
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Wow that’s a really easy charger to install but seem a bit of a long job ? I like it in theory but highly unlikely I will have any thing to do with EV chargers . But I might give it a go ??
Fantastic video as always Joe
👍👍👍❤️

seandempsey
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Thanks for these videos they are very interesting. The only EV chargers I've installed are 3 phase Garo ones in car parks.

solidus
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Power line adaptors a radio hams worst nightmare

paulbailey
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EV-Ultra CAT5 has STP data cable and you aren't using the shield 528.2 springs to mind!

timballam
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Great 👍good information about Ev charger installation

hasankhan-eyoz
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That’s quite a neat hack for the CT & LAN would it work with any EV charger?

mfselectrical
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Hellishly complicated (and expensive) for what's basically a weatherproof socket. So we've gone from not needing an earth rod, to needing an earth rod, to not needing an earth rod and back to needing an earth rod? Might wait for 'no earth rod needed' to come around.

markrainford
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When installing a new socket at CU location. How do you get power there? Spur? New cable in an existing ring circuit MCB?

SeanyyBoy_
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Does the Power line adaptors have to be on the same circuit at either end, also can you use wago connectors for the CT pair instead of jelly crimps?

njwareing
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I find the design choice for the data cable connections curious. It would seem to have been better were they to have routed the pin 4 & 5 from the RJ45 socket wherever they needed them — and thus allowed the use of a standard cable — rather then relying on the installer to make the connections. Doing so would have required a custom fitting on the other end to make an appropriate connection which would be an additional cost. But if you're marketing on the quality of your product why not do so? A 2 socket RJ45 face plate and a 2-conductor flying wire wouldn't amount to much.

calmeilles
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The dongle is the nuts but it is an extra. The metrell ev adapter doesn't fit

jacktissington
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Question: I move into a house with an Indra charger on the wall - how do I get access to the App?

edc
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Here's an idea; build the power line adapter into the charger and then just provide the other part to connect to the router. It's always amazed me that routers don't have this built in themselves.

ukpm
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What burden resistance do they use in domestic CT loads? My worry is that CAT5 is only rated up to 125V.
And where do they saturate if you lose the burden? It doesn't look like much there is super-secure against going open circuit?

dansheppard
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PLEASE EXPLAIN:

All the training I've done for EV devices tells me it is vital to get the CT clamp the right way around on an AC supply 😂 It's measuring RMS current! What is this magic? Or is it just a pervasive myth. Pleasee, I really want to know! I would love someone to explain that and how I am wrong. I can see how it MAY make a difference on 3-phase, but on single phase, I just cannot imagine how.
N.B. I feel fairly reassured as the instructor that Im supposed to be listening to in the Zoom call Im in right now just referred to the Neutral Conductor as the negative!

biaelectric
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7:24 kinda weird .. using fine stranded cable non yellow/green for earthing and put a ferrule on it ( not neeeded in thesere style connector blocks ) would probably not approve here . Earth rod always solid core ( or multi solid cores ) and yellow-green here .. don't think a solar cable would pass inspection here . But hey isf this is way it's allowed in uk it is :-)

kittsdiy
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Nice electronics (Raspberry Pi?) but ugly design of the box. We HAMs don't like Power Line Adapters due high EMC polution. As driving EV's since 2014 I can assurre you that for the callibration with an EV the battery SOC is not the only reference point as a very cold battery will charge very slowly (low current) so this must be taking into account

bitmanev