Why The 'Great Apostasy' FAILS! w/ Isaac Hess

How did a Mormon missionary start to doubt the crucial claim of The Early Church Apostatizing? Isaac Hess talks about his experience of deep diving into Early Church history.



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[michaelt]

Let’s pray that the Lord guides all Christians to read and study the early Church fathers. In this way, may they realize the authority of Christ’s Church and let them have faith that it never left us, but has been with us in every age.

St. Peter, our first Holy Shepherd on Earth, pray for us.

[matthewgaulke]

This is where I'm at now too as a former Mormon. Jesus sets up his Church only for it to fall into apostasy as quickly as they claim? Jesus performs his ministry, atones for the world, sets up a church just for it to fall apart as quickly as the Mormons claim? The All Powerful God builds a Church and what? Goes back to playing video games while the Church is ransacked right after he makes it? And to then restore it in 1820?

[chucksmith]

The same thing happened to me from Armstrongism. Ellen G White of Adventism borrowed the same nonsense from the LDS

[ArkansasJaKeAustin]

Replace "LDS" with "Baptist" and this becomes my same exact story.

[josh]

St Ignatius of Antioch was the first church father I read

[CamiloSoares]

I'm yet to see any honest christian reading the Church Fathers and not becoming catholic.

[DavGre]

It seems if a lot of Protestant faiths attempted to iron out their theological inconsistencies they would realize how off the mark they are from Jesus’ original teachings.

[danstrikker]

If there was this "great apostasy" then Christ would have lied since he stated that "The gates of hell shall not prevail"

[steelmongoose]

It would seem that any non-apostolic denomination would have to believe in a Great Apostasy as well, simply because the bar would be so high for justification of a new church not founded by Jesus.

[GT_]

Im a protestant who would like to read the early church fathers, any reccomendations on what book, or books, to read?

[pajabesa]

What was Saint Paul, an Apostle referring to in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3, or in 2 Timothy 3:1-5 and 2 Timothy 4:3-4? Why did saint Peter say that there would need to be a time of "refreshing" before the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ (see Acts 3:19-21)? Do we really think Christ's teachings and apostolic priesthood keys stayed intact after his chosen 12 were killed? Paul said we need Apostles and Prophets, not just Bishops (Ephesians 2:19-20 and Ephesians 4:11-14).

[jacobbowers]

Brother Hess, why did Judas become replaced with Matthias if having 12 apostles wasn’t important to the early church? Why not just keep the eleven and then progress with apostolic succession as they die one by one? Geniune question.

[nathankelleher]

Not related to the video, but Matt, have you considered interviewing Diana Walsh Pasulka? I think it would be a great conversation between the two of you

[BrianTerrill]

1 Epistle of Cl3ment actually proves the Book of Mormon is true. It was also part of the Bible.

[mememe]

The genius of LDS theology was what made me leave protestantism! The great apostasy is such a clear and obvious conclusion for protestants its such strange move for them to drop it. Though it would make sense of protestantism as an ideology it doesn't work rationally.

So i just went one step before protestantism and became catholic

[Forester-]

The hard truth is that if there was a Great Apostasy that made the true Church unidentifiable then Christ’s promise did not hold true and we’re grasping at straws to avoid coming to that realization. You can easily read the Church Fathers from Apostolic times all the way into the Middle Ages and realize that there was no apostasy without twisting yourself into a pretzel to maintain that there was one but Christianity is still true.

[RoctoberSlots-bw]

If Ye don't know thy Parchments/Hebrew Text Aka Thy Original KJV derived from thy Parchments, how then will ye learn understanding? Im not Judging, Im a lowly man but know Thy TRUTH!!! Catholics believe Mary, is thy queen of heaven, Not! Again, I shall say it, Mary, got Her Reward and is Remembered until this day! Also Christ, said 'Father, I was with You, before Thy Foundation of thy whole world' Mary, was Not there yet! Know your Scripture. John3:17 Amen!!!

[kravitzn]

You gotta go back to James the Just, brother of Jesus, the first archbishop of the first church in Jerusalem. Before Paul got involved.

[RoctoberSlots-bw]

I Praise God, Thru Christ, with The Holy Spirit, Every Religion thinks they have thy answers, most don't have a clue what they're learning or teaching. Question for thy Catholics, Why do ye call thy pope Holy Father? That's Wrong! God, said 'Honor thy father and mother but don't call No one else on Earth thy Father! Ye Do error Greatly! John3:17 Amen!!!