Top 10 Times Fantastic Beasts Ignored Harry Potter Lore

How can "Fantastic Beasts" ignore the "Harry Potter" lore? For this list, we’ll be looking at the most notable times the “Fantastic Beasts” movies forgot, contradicted, or rewrote previously established canon from the “Harry Potter” series. Our countdown includes the blood pact, apparating in Hogwarts grounds, the last Lestrange?, and more! What are YOUR thoughts on the "Fantastic Beasts" movies? Let us know in the comments!

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[walterude]

That McGonagall flaw is the most irritating one for me. Like, did these writers not know that fans are calculating these time differences and would spot a gaffe that big?

[erictoncray]

Again, for the whole Apparation on school grounds. It could’ve been that Dumbledore himself set up the spells necessary to prevent the act after he became headmaster, which was likely to prevent Voldemort and his Death Eaters from attacking the school.

[plumdutchess]

Dumbledore just got more excentric as he got older. Many people do and he had a lot of time to develop that style.

[m.w.]

My biggest complaint is that Newt is still allowed to carry a wand and do magic despite having been expelled from Hogwarts... Hagrid's wand got broken when he was kicked out

[Meganedere]

It's established in the books that MOST of the Wizarding World cannot dress like Muggles, they're isolated in their magic world. The fact that not only young Dumbledore but most of the wizards and witches dress cleanly and fashionably despite assumingly being equally isolated within their own magic bubbles doesn't add up.

[amethystsavage]

How do mistakes like these even happen when you have the studio who made Harry Potter, the director of half the Harry Potter movies, and the woman who wrote the damn series working on the movies?!

[tvaccount]

MY EXPLANATIONS:
10. Lack of Robes - We get eccentric as we get older, this is very trivial though.
09. Accio - there's no specific rule that it cant be used on living animals, so as Accio being used on enormous objects, being a skilled magizoologist Newt could've mastered that "special" magic. We see wizards being skilled on being an Animagus, Occlumens, Seer etc which is not for all, even inventing spells, or doing wandless or unspoken magic- im pretty sure Newt is also a special kind of wizard inventing and capable of "special" magic.
08. Dumbledore couldve just switched subjects. DADA teacher claiming to teach 50 years still given ample time from 1930 to 1990 (and it was never said it was consecutive years)
07. It could just be a different tree. Or the same kind of tree but not the one planted leading to the Shrieking Shack.
06. Our desires change which I think applies to the Wizarding World too
05. It was never established when that "Apparition Security" happened. It could be an additional security planted when Dumbledore became headmaster or after the fantastic beasts timeline after the Wizarding War happened as added security
04. Mcgonagall timeline- The claimed flaw is that McGonagall mentioned she taught at Hogwarts for 40 years- But it was never established if it was "consecutive years", she couldve been assigned for a non teaching position at some point or left teaching Hogwarts and came back
03. It could just be a different branch of the lesser known or less prominent branch of the Lestrange family (remember how we associate the last of the ____ family on just the prominent branch? (rumors and media)
02. Aberforth is an introvert kind of person so its not a surprise we never heard of Credence from the HP books. We're also not sure if there's someone else aside from Newt, Albus, Aberforth and Grindelwald who knew about this.
01. Accio is not a disarming spell nor a defensive or attacking spell. And Grindelwald was not using the Elder Wand when he was disguised as Graves.

[patrichavez]

Another big one is the fact that Dumbledore didn't even knew that the room of requirement existed.

[rafaelmatos]

10 - The wizards in the movies are portraited to use cloaths that are more Muggle than what is described in the books. Despite it's possible that Dumbledore had changed his style, we can't ignore his more trimmed beard. After all, when he gets to meet Tom Riddle, he already had a long auburn beard. Sure, FBSOD happens just a few years before that meeting, but even so...

9 - The term "object" can be very... flexible when it comes to magic. Maybe that's a more generic description of the spell.

8 - Dumbledore teaching DADA despite it already had a teacher can be explained by the fact that he was just filling in for Professor Merrythought. After all, if she was an author as well, she would have gone in trips to promove her work, sometimes during school time. Meaning she would need someone to fill in for her.

7 - I think it was never confirmed that was the Whomping Willow (as far as I know).

6 - What a person sees in the Mirror of Erised can change depending what they desire at the moment they are looking into it. At that scene, Dumbledore's desire was to be able to return to what he and Grindelwald had, as it was a time when they were not enemies.

5 - Yeah, no one can Apparate in Hogwarts grounds. But the Headmaster appears to have control on that. We have to remember that the headmaster on that time was not Dumbledore, but possibly Armando Dippet or his predecessor. The Ministry could have required the Headmaster to lift the charm that prevents Apparating, so they could appear there. Or maybe the Minstry at that time had some influence on the charm.

4 - This one is very controversial, because we got a date to McGonagall's birthday. But I think the year they say she was born was calculated having in consideration her biography and what she had told Umbridge about her tenue in Hogwarts. However, we have a lot to consider. She said to Umbridge she taught for thirty-nine years. But she never said those thirty-nine years were consecutive or that those thirty-nine years represented all her teaching career in Hogwarts. As we know, Dumbledore was the Head of Transfiguration department when she was accepted to teach in Hogwarts. He was still the teacher and McGonagall acted basically as his assistant, filling in for him when he couldn't teach or when he would fill in for other teachers. It's very possible that those thirty-nine years she references is about her career as the Head of the Transfiguration department, what it would make sense, since Dumbledore would stop teaching when he became Headmaster.

3 - It's obvious they were talking about the French branch of the Lestrange family. The Lestrange family is not of British origins, but French. The fact that English-speaking wizards pronunciate the name wrong is proof of that. The French branch would have been the main one, so they were most important.

2 - Just because Credence is never mentioned during the Harry Potter books, it doesn't make it a plothole. Only that it was not relevant to the story. We can't forget that book 7 puts light into Albus' life, not Aberforth's. And what Grindelwerd told Credence about him being a brother to Dumbledore could have double meaning: either he told Credence he and Dumbledore were brothers in the way that they share the same blood or he lied to him about them being brothers. Grindelwerd was a liar, after all. He had lied to many wizards and witches to convince them to join him, like Queenie.

1 - This one is tricky... Yes, for one to conquer the Elder Wand's loyalty, they need to defeat its current owner. Because Harry defeated Draco and conquered the wand's loyalty, then we can assume the wand's master doesn't need to hold it for its allegiance. So it would be assumed that the Elder Wand's allegiance would shift, possibly to Tina, as she was the one to take Graves' wand from Grindelwerd. However, we can assume that, because Grindelwerd technically won the battle during the rally, he may have recovered the alligiance of the Elder Wand or that he had won it back afterwards.

[ryanmugz]

that tree there at 4:50 wasn't the woomping wilow.

[tinas_hotdog_sophie]

That isn't the whomping willow, it's another tree. Some wood used for wands as Newt explains right in that scene you are showing.

[Eclpse]

One of my biggest complaints about this franchise is Why is Newt Scammander still in these movie? The first movie was good because the story is about Scamander trying to clean up the mess that he accidentally make; and somehow, he got involved with first Wizarding War.
The last movie go ahead and done a 180 on us, and make everything about Dumbledore and Grindelwald. Scamander is front and center of the story, but he no longer the main character. The storyline is now about Dumbledore and Grindelward and their preparation for their legendary duel…….And for some reason Scamander is involved. Don’t get me wrong, Eddie Redmayne is a great actor and Newt is great character; but the story is clearly moving so far away from him, that he doesn’t needs to be anywhere near it. They are clearly trying to justify Scamander involvement in these movie.
I mean the title of the series is called Fantastic Beast. So the series should have been about Scamander and all the fantastical beasts around the would; and not about the First Wizarding War



Another the thing is that they either broke the blood pact too early and/or the time skip is not long enough. Since the 3rd movie is set in 1932 and the the Legendary duel isn’t happening until 1945. So, they got about 13 years time gap, what was Dumbledore doing to justifying him waiting that long to face Grindelwald again. I originally thought that they was going used the blood pact as an excuse for why Dumbledore wait so long to face Grindelwald, but apparently not. They should have make this franchise into a trilogy. The first movie could set up the storyline, 2nd is about Dumbledore trying to break the blood pact, and 3rd is about the leading up to and the legendary duel. That could have been an great action pact trilogy

[salsa]

The tree isn’t the whomping willow. It’s just a willow. Hence why it’s not.. well, whomping.

As for the ending, it’s been well known that JK is not “the master of her own lore”. She provided insight and put her name on the Cursed Child, which we all know was a disaster, she’s famous for making up random things about her characters and posting them on Twitter, and of course a lot of the things pointed out here really don’t make sense.

I love Harry Potter, but I’m not going to pretend that JK Rowling hasn’t been sloppy for quite a long time now.

Every project she’s been involved in after the last HP book has been incredibly flawed.

[aadretachakraborty]

As far as I can remember Dumbledore also can't apparate from Hogwarts grounds. In the 6th book, he had to go hogsmead first to apparate... However 6th film changed this rule.
In the secrets of Dumbledore film, I also didn't understand how Jacob could see and be in Hogwarts, when Hogwarts have its protection enchantments against muggles.

[davidpumpkinsjr.]

10- People's personal styles can change over the years as could wizard fashion. The films appear to indicate wizard styles seemed to backslide a bit from a late-19th/early-20th Century style in the 1920s to early/mid-19th Century style by the end of the century. As seen in real life, retro fashions have resurgences.
9- It was never firmly established that accio can't be used on living things. The only implied limitations were distance and size of object.
7- It's clearly a different tree. The leaves, bark consistency and branch growth patterns are not even similar.
5- Even the HP-proper films played fast and loose with this rule. Voldemort was apparating like crazy in his final battle against Harry.
2- Grindelwald may have been using the term "brother" in a non-literal sense.
1- It shows just how powerful Grindelwald really is. He's doing all this incredible magic without a mastery of the wand.

[ChildOfDarkDefiance]

In the books, not even Dumbledore could apparate on in or out of Hogwarts, they had to walk into Hogsmeade.

[mimull]

Dumbledore is portraid as a moraly gray character in the book but in the last movie he is pure of heart.

[moonprincesst.s.h.ever]

The Fantastic Beasts franchise is a slap in the face for hardcore Harry Potter fans! It's all about so-called fan service and the ability to write anything that they want to and justify it as "magic." Now, you would think that Ms. J.K. Rowling would be the first person to point out these inconsistencies and flaws, but concerning that she, herself wrote most of them... it kind of looks like she has stopped caring about her magical fantastic creations. 😢🤬

[peterang]

Still mist Richard Harris as Dumbledore... the best one...

[erictoncray]

I’ll actually argue that due to the Ministry intervention, Dumbledore was forced to switch subjects. And the new teacher could’ve gone on to teach for 50 years, as the time difference between FB and HP is the late 1920s to the early 2000s. Plenty of time for all of the “discrepancies” to be fixed. Plus, we don’t actually know when Voldemort attacked the Wizarding world. He could’ve been in his early 20s or early 30s.