Saitama vs Goku (with proof) #anime #animeedit #onepunchman #dragonball #goku #saitama

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Nothing to see here, just an average DB downplayer who can't scale.

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There's a suprisingly small number of ppl who can put bias aside and just straight up state facts like they are. And something else yall gotta remember is how Saitama's growth jumps are instant and non-stop, Goku if he transforms to overpower Saitama would land a shot then instantly get hit back with an attack even stronger than the one he just hit Saitama with, and that's considering Saitama hasn't already jumped past that current form already by then 😂.

The reasons Saitama wins:
He has infinite durability,

Infinite stamina,

Stats (not just strength but speed, reaction times and adapatbility as well) that grow at Broly on crack ^10 speeds,

Speed that makes MFTL+ characters look like they're sitting still while falling in mid air while he does hundreds of after images towards them,

Absolute will power that cannot be beaten down in any way,


Hax that lets him do whatever he wants (through that very broken willpower and mindset),

His immunity and invulnerability to all psychic, spiritual and other types of cosmic abilities as well.


What a lot of people STILL don't understand is just how much of a threat Cosmic Garou truly is. If Cosmic Garou just kept copying Goku he'd be able to beat Goku as well as I'm ngl.

The only way Goku would be able to beat him is to instantly erase all traces of him (very unlikely since he'll have to go to his stronger forms for that, which as we know Cosmic Garou can just instantly copy and become just as powerful himself) or by growing much much stronger than him almost instantly (rip Goku) and beating him at his own game.

Cosmic Garou also would be able to learn all the forces and phenomena of the universe and master ki right away. That's bad news for Goku on top of all this 😅.


The only reason Garou could even be stopped is cuz Saitama just grew so frickin fast and by so much in mere fractions of microseconds and kept gapping him by that much in such a short time where he couldn't keep wouldn't be the case with Goku unfortunately as many forms as he has. And unlike his previous opponents he's not gonna get a chance to keep growing again and again 2-3 more times before death. He's just going to get left in the dust and then get one shot.That was the point of the entire fight lul.

[omarramos]

It’s as simple as this.

Saitama has limitless potential and growth, and it’s nothing like gokus where goku needs to rest and recover during a battle and heal, saitamas growth happens automatically and at an exponential rate. Although saitama might not know he’s infinitely strong and can surpass anyone he wants to, goku can use any form or power up he wants against saitama, but as the battle continues on saitamas limitlessness will always have a counter attack to gokus new power up, goku will hit him with something stronger than his previous forms fished out and saitamas limitlessness will just simply put him above that current power goku has displayed. Saitama will continue and always come back with something far greater and stronger than goku dished out and it will get to a point to where saitamas power simply cannot be scaled any further and he will leave goku in the dust. It’s simple logic given to us in the OPM manga.

[Valid_opinionist]

Cooking saitama fanboys with this comment💀
Proof (pretty long comment by the way) :
Strength :
saitama destroyed jubiter with sneeze
Goku : shakes dimensions
Speed :
saitama goes as fast as or faster than light, there is no such thing as infinite speed+ ftl isnt infinite speed kiddo
Goku : blocks dozens of light speed attacks from frieza at base form
Durability :
saitama : doesnt feel the gamma ray
Goku : ssg could shake the universe, , and goku tanked a ton of punches and attacks from jiren
Abilities, hax : goku
Flexibility, skill, combat, BIQ : goku
IQ : saitama💀
Range, melee, offense, defense : goku
Experience : goku
AP, DC: king vegeta destroys planets with simple moves, frieza 1st form oneshots him and current goku is dozens and dozens, actually hundreds of LEAGUES above frieza first form right now
Battle experience : goku
Potential : saitama
Cosmology : goku
Winner : goku overall WINS ez

Debunking saitama myths :

"Saitama destroyed millions of galaxies with 1 punch"
No he did not, there is not a single panel saying millions or billions + as you can see everyone says something different😂, one says millions, one says billions, one says trillions, becuse it literally did not happen and they dont have proof
Even if saitama did knock them away, they are in SPACE so there is no gravity, a punch's shockwave goes forever unless something stronger than that shockwave clashes with it, so basically saitama can destroy 1 star with punch, not millions, its just that punch shockwave gets wider as it goes, just like when you use a shotgun
"Saitama blocked and grabbed space- time portals and attacks from garou"
We quite literally dont know how these work, maybe they are just holes in space time and the matter which was originally in the hole are now on the edges of those attacks and portals, so they are super dense, just think of a blackhole you see the outlines, maybe they arent, we dont know, you also dont know😂 so dont even try to say otherwise + terra 2 isnt canon
I am not a goku fanboy + i do know about manga saitama, saitama himself cant time travel, garou made him time travel

[FadeNightmare]

Well, time to debunk this video...

So, the second segment displays saitama not using his full potential, this is half true since saitama was actually trying as seen by the growth chart, if he never was trying he wouldn't have surpassed his limits, saitama has limitless potential but at the moment of that fight and as seen on the growth chart and feats, saitama is at least solar system level.



The segment after that I can agree with, saitama went from planetary to solar system level, but this video also excluded the fact that saiyans also have limitless potential, and goku being the skilled martial artist he is even since a kid can easily adapt to saitama especially when he has no martial art techniques, so it'll be harder for saitama to even land attacks on goku, goku mastered every fighting style on earth so sometimes he can read his opponents movements before they even land them.



After that it says "Goku takes damage no matter what form he's using, he still can be killed even in TUI". Well, obviously the opponents goku faces are on equal level or way stronger than him and in the dbz/dbs world if you have lower ki/power level than your opponent your attacks are useless/negated and when a saiyan has low ki they get weaker which is probably a downside but in the end goku always finds a way to beat his enemies.



Next segment. "saitama is invincible and didn't bleed or get hurt in his battle with garou" What about when he got scratched by a cat? Just kidding, in all seriouesness that segment sounds like a fanboy-ish statement, we all know throughout the whole OPM series all the opponents saitama faces they are way way weaker then he is so u can't really say hes invincible. Saitama surpassed garous level and can easily tank his attacks so logically yeah ofc he wouldn't get hurt. But against someone like goku base (current) who is at least high universal due to absorbing the god ki in his base he would (most likely) knock out saitama like how saitama knocked out garou when they first encountered or maybe even kill him accidentally.



"saitama has infinite amount of speed." That was never confirmed, just because of the high quality manga panel showing how quick saitama is does not mean he has infinite speed, if he has infinite speed why is he always late to show up? Why didn't he instantly get to genos before cosmic garou did the final blow that killed genos? Goku when he was a kid was already faster than the speed of light because tien did the solar flare which is a move of pure light and activates at light speed, goku during that time moved faster than light to get roshis glases and put them on so he doesn't get blinded, and that was just as a KID, now the current goku is trillions or quadrillions of times faster than the speed of light, vegeta even stated in one of the manga panels that if his power increases his speed also does along with it, which probably only applies for saiyans, so current goku in base would be way way faster than saitama let alone in TUI. In the buu saga, kid buu was so fast he traveled from different planets in seconds and blew them up with ease. So even kid buu is faster than saitama.



The saitama being able to breathe in space is probably the only advantage saitama has against goku since the saiyans cannot yet breathe in space but maybe it'll change in the future, who knows.



Saitama isn't 4d just cause he time traveled, and he didn't even travel with his own power, it was cause of garou, there are many characters in fiction that can time travel but get clapped by street level characters. Stewie from family guy can time travel and he's only a baby. does that make him 4d? No. Bardock and ik its uncanon but in the bardock movie he time traveled into the past while in freizas death ball, does that make him 4d? No.



Hyper space portals are a temporal dimension, it's not a spacial dimension, just cause he can grab these portals doesn't mean he's higher dimensional, what he did with the hyper space gate was just a non-physical interaction rather than a higher dimensional feat, which is heavily supported by him actually interacting with phoenix mans spiritual space dimension that is not physical, using the hyper space feat isn't viable in any way as jedi and sith from star wars manipulate hyperspace with the force, so does that make them 4d? Base momoshiki from naruto created a whole 4d alternate dimension as it was also called a hyper space, even garlic jr (dbz) opened a portal through hyper space and yet he was still beatable, so this proves more that interacting or having the ability to create hyper space does not make u 4d.




Goku in TUI wouldn't drain his stamina too fast as it is a more perfected form of his ultra instinct and it would be more stable for him to use, Just like goku and the rest of the saiyans perfect super saiyan with little to no ki or stamina drain. Before goku ever runs out of stamina saitama would already be knocked out or bodied.



Next segment. Again, no one knows if saitama has infinite stamina, speed or strength, saitama only has infinite potential which every saiyan also has, vegeta in the TOP adapted to jirens attacks and later surpassed his limits into a ssjbe or evolved ssjb so that statement is just a speculation and not really a fact, saitama surpassed garous level and it wasn't really hard for him so ofc he wouldn't lose any stamina or energy from fighting someone weaker than him.



Saitama is ONLY limitless in his potential, y'all keep acting like he's limitless in everything.



So in the end, goku stomps saitama. Before saitama can even reach universal level. Goku would accidentally speed blitz or one shot saitama. Even cell could beat saitama, cell was going to destroy the whole solar system with his solar system kamehameha wave, and cell is also stated to have infinite power so by one punch man fan logic that would mean true infinity. This video isn't really giving much proof for goku and is one sided, plus most of the proof for saitama is debunked by my comment.

[dozablox]

another thing is that saitama never gets a scratch on which goku always gets wounded and sometimes dies but he is revived just saying that even when he fought cosmic garou he still held back even when his growth was skyrocketing he was still holding power. Also saitama can multiply his strength in seconds with proper training or opponent or if he takes fights seriously he can surpass goku since it takes like months for goku to multiply his power level

[AliHassan-hfpi]

I like how saitama fanboys dont even give proof they just show you saitama's feats and completely ignore goku's

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In the OPM web comic, it is stated by the infamous Dr. Genus, that Saitama has "removed his limiter." Even though Saitama is a human, he has surpassed his limiter to getting stronger, while Goku still has that. As a Saiyan, Goku has a very, very big limiter.

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Goku would defeat Saitama in base because he absorbed the strength of ssg in his base, so he is universal in base and later on in dbs he got hundreds of times stronger because of the training with whis, so he is around multiversal in base
Now let's talk about the transformations.

Ssj = 50× stronger means he can destroy 50 or more multiverses in ssj

Ssj 2 = 2×ssj = 100×

Ss3 = 4× ssj2 = 400 = 400 or more multiverses

Here comes the crazy part

Ssg = 100, 000× stronger

Ssb = 50 × ssg = 5, 000, 000× stronger

5, 000, 000 multiverses!

And the way we find the Ultra Instinct Sign multiplier is by scaling it and Super Saiyan Blue to Jiren. We'll make Goku a one for these calculations. When using Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-Ken times 20 against a suppressed Jiren, Goku was still unable to do damage. When Goku and Vegeta later fight Jiren in SSBKK and SSBE, they are of equal strength and still aren't enough for suppressed Jiren, so I think it's fair to say Jiren was three times stronger than Goku, so Goku would be a 100, 000, 000 and Jiren would be a 300, 000, 000.


When Goku unlocks Ultra Instinct Sign, he seems to be equal with Jiren. Both are able to take attacks from each other, block each others attacks, and hurt each other. But he doesn't seem to be as strong as Jiren when he finally uses his full strength. Ultra Instinct Sign is a 300, 000, 000 times multiplier from base form, 60 times stronger than SSJ Blue.


Then we get to Perfected Ultra Instinct, far stronger than Ultra Instinct Sign and stronger than Full Power Jiren. He effortlessly blocks and dodges Jiren, and pummels him during the fight. I think it's fair to say based off the fight between Goku and Jiren that Full Power Jiren is 1.55 times stronger than suppressed Jiren, making him a 450, 000, 000. And based off the battle, I think it's fair to say that MUI Goku is at least twice as strong as Full Power Jiren, making him a 900, 000, 000, 3 times Ultra Instinct Sign and 900, 000, 000 times base form.

That means at LEAST 900, 000, 000 multiverses

While Saitama is high solar system
That makes Cel a little above Saitama and Goku and beerus were “hitting each other again and again with power capable of destroying the universe itself.”
Whis: “That power is capable of destroying the Universe..”
It was stated that Goku matched Beerus in strength technique and force.
And Goku evolved in SSG and then absorbed it in SSJ1. Plus Universe7 is 10x bigger than a normal one so Goku is high universal in SSG. also Universe7 has heaven which is the same size of the universe, and the demon realm is too, and the kaioshin realm is 1/10th of universe7 so universe7 is 10x bigger than a normal universe so that makes kaioshin realm size of normal universe, and there is the kaio realm which is bigger than heaven and hell which is the same size of the Enma realm, plus these universes have separate space time continuums and those realms clang be travelled through normally. speed goes to Goku for being faster than a time skipper and being faster than a guy who’s thousands of times faster than light and also Goku moved so fast without using instant transmission that his atoms couldn’t keep up. dimensionality
Dimensionality is being higher dimension and Goku has shown 5D-7D feats in that conclusion Goku beats saitama no diff-mid diff end debate🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝

[Streaked]

saitama ain’t “LiMiTLeSs ☝️🤓” or “oMnIpOtEnT ☝️🤓”people just like to call him limitless cuz he hasn’t showed his limit yet, i don’t consider myself the most knowledgeable person but i sure know that saitama’s limit is only galaxy level you meatriders just love to call him limitless just cuz his name is one punch man which basically over half the anime verse can destroy HIM in one punch.


strength - goku’s BASE form strength is multiversal and while in his mui state he already is complex multiversal or even hyperversal, saitama is only galaxy level and his potential is capped to only galaxy level so even if saitama tried to punch goku, goku could easily dodge it and goku defeated jiren, jiren walking alone was enough to make the whole universe shake so strength goes to goku

speed - saitama isn’t as fast as you’d think he is, saitama is only 10x the speed of light while goku managed to break through hit’s timeskip which hasn’t been able to counter for over 1000 years, giving him infinite speed or possible over infinite, so speed goes to goku, also saitama’s time travelling won’t work as paradoxes don’t exist in dragon ball, and goku could just outspeed saitama in a million different ways

durability - complex multiversal, a weakened version of base form goku was able to tank hits of both beerus and infinite zamasu, if you want to talk about mui, jiren alone in his base form is already around high multiversal level and ssj2 goku couldn’t even deal a blow to him, the reason why saitama is stated to have insane durability by all those who think he does is because all his enemies are only galaxy level, and if he were to face a tougher opponent who was multiversal, he would have an extremely hard time keeping up with opponents like goku who are already multiversal

iq - obviously goes to saitama 💀

battle iq - goku has been training martial arts for 44 years since the day he landed on earth while saitama is only 25 with an incredibly low battle iq compared to goku

dimensions - 5-d to 6-d for goku, and 3-d to 4-d for saitama while dbz and dbs is 5d while goku was fighting against janemba as an ssj3 he heavily affected infinite dimensions and their cosmic energy, ikari broly and ssj gogeta casually broke the bounds of reality which separated from the infinite universe. even though saitama destroyed stars and planets during his fight with garou, he didn’t grab any “hyperspace gates” rather instead grabbing an ordinary “sub-space gate” this doesn’t grant saitama 5th dimensional strength rather than just 3rd dimensional. complex multiversal mui goku had managed to beat jiren. jiren alone walking was enough to make the entire universe constantly shake and keep in mind this is a universe full of nothingness meaning no aspect of cosmology existed in that universe of emptiness whatsoever, and jiren walking was enough to make that boundless universe constantly shake

abilities - only has his punches and consecutive punches, while goku has different combinations of ki blasts, flight, kamehameha, spirit bomb, kaioken technique, instant transmission, and ki sensing

offense and defense - goku can easily counter saitama’s punches with his base form as he learned to use ui in his base form, saitama cant even TOUCH him, and even if he didn’t have ui, saitama’s punches wouldn’t do anything to goku’s multiversal base state durability.

experience - like earlier mentioned goku is 44 while saitama is only 25

winner?
goku slams no concept diff 💀

[willoisreal]

Finally, some FACTS. I love how you ACTUALLY SHOW PROOF of how Saitama has better feats than Goku and why. Every Goku stan has never heard of the OPM manga series ong.

[Devastation_]

Okay here's the REAL fight if we're talking bout in the manga Goku easily wins.

Want proof here.


Goku strength- Destroyed a infinite sized universe in the buu saga
Strength of Saitama, destroyed trillions of stars and sneezed Jupiter.
Strength goes to Goku.


Speed. Goku- Immeasurable can travel in quadrillions at only his super Saiyan 1 formgets faster later on. Speed of Saitama, infinite speed, and can dupe himself with just his speed. Speed, In equilibrium.

Durability of Goku, if had enough stamina Goku is untouchable in ultra instinct. He easily dodges each attack thrown at him. Durability of Saitama, can be injured by low class villains or heroes. But still survives at Earth's crust or mantle.

Durability goes to Goku.

Iq/biq
Iq/biq of Goku- did not know right counting and counted from 1trillion to 2trillion but has a lot of battle exp and can easily adapt to the opponents fighting style.
Iq/biq of Saitama, was a business man before but only relies on pure strength and speed.
Iq goes to Saitama, biq goes to Goku.

Exp
Exp of Goku, has been training since child birth and is 44 years old.
Exp of Saitama, trained so hard, lost his hair and was gifted my monster GODS power. And is 22yros.
Exp goes to Goku.

Skills and abilities.
Goku skills and abilities- knows martial arts and has learned a lot of abilities including his signature kamehame HA!
Skills and abilities of Saitama.
Don't underestimate Saitama. He has a lot of dexterity and skills with a signature Normal punch.
Skills and abilities-goku.

Endurance
Endurance of Goku, able to hold out long enough against broly until Vegeta was healed.
Endurance of Saitama, can't feel anything and has never endured a REAL punch.
Endurance is Goku.

Winner is Goku.

[mega_guerrero]

I love how the people thinks that Saitama>>>Goku for this video, but Goku has better feats

[treasurenicholas]

Debunk time:it's not stated that he destroyed thousands of galaxies. That's not infinite speed that just means he's mftl. That doesn't mean he surpasses everyone that just means he has Infinite potential. His stamina isn't limitless that just means. He's not invincible that just means everyone in his verse is to weak to heart him.

[Acentedits]

THIS EDIT WAS FIRE, SHOWING THE PURE REALITY

[Hmmmmmm]

remember goku got injured by a random lazer from a weakass frieza force soldier when he was in super saiyan blue. And got a bruse from some bullets even though he has the power of super saiyan god in his base form. So goku would be just be a piece of rotting meat on the ground when lets say saitama time travels back and uses his serious punch when goku is off guard.

[sunky]

Finally someone who actually watches opm

[viperion]

Saitama win (low-mid diff) Dragon ball fanboys can cry

[deepfriedoeswanson]

Yeah Saitama Destroys Trillions billions if not quintillions of Galaxies in one Punch While Goku did a barrage of punches to Harm a full Universe so If said what would happen if Saitama did the same barrage of punches? Along with his Increasing potential. Cause if he can destroy that many Galaxies in one Punch how many can he destroy in a barrage of punches

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Bro, stop inventing hyperboles and fallacies about Saitama's strength, in the manga itself it was explained very well how Saitama's strength works and its evolution, it is exponential, and in hours of evolution Saitama's greatest feat was universal (tearing the fabric of the universe), apart from the fact that the Cosmic Garou himself who copied Saitama's evolution lost to him because Saitama himself was evolving for longer, it has literally been proven in manga that Saitama's evolution is not something that necessarily makes you superior to your opponent, but rather just an exponential growth in power, because a being with that same power lost.

No, Saitama doesn't have infinite speed, it took him 30 seconds to cross a celestial body, other than that he's nothing more than (according to fan calculations, so I'm using the power of hyperbol haha) is no more than 200x the light, whereas Goku multiplies his base speed by exactly that in his TUI form, he managed to follow a Kamehameha that left the Earth's stratosphere in just a few seconds in DBZ and dodged a Makkankosapo (which logically has the speed of light) in DBZ SSJ1 form, even before fusing with his god form.

And, in addition, in the manga itself it was explained that Saitama only needs a feeling that he hasn't felt for years to start evolving, that is, almost all of his battles have a relative result, as the same in base form took damage to Boros, proof that he is not uncommon.