Ugly Glue Lines And 3m | How To Avoid These

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Your ability to acknowlege possible imperfections in your technique, openmindedness to trying different techniques in search of perfection, and willingness to pass all of this information on to us just reinforces why I trust you to always give us the best possible advice to learn solid vinyl practices. Thanks Christian!

troystevenson
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Dude you’ve been a huge inspiration to me. I’ve learned so much from you and your channel..i’ve been wrapping motorcycles now for a few years and i’ve started posting tutorials on my channel on how to get it done from a non professional diy guy. Thank you so much for the videos and inspiring us small creators to do our own custom vinyl work. Because of you i decided to give vinyl wrapping motorcycle tutorials a shot. So far so good..i’ve been getting a lot of questions and i always try and use your channel as a reference to answer people’s questions. I know you dont do a lot of motorcycles, but i know a lot of us moto guys have used your tips and tricks. Keep inspiring us small guys man!! Im posting a ton more motorcycle wrapping tutorials since they’re doing so good on my channel!

adobomoto
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Hello Christopher. I believe what you're referring to as " glue lines " look like light release steaks. That's where the white backing goes through a release coater where the release is applied. There are many techniques that different vinyl companies use to apply release to the backing. Only in Japan have I seen a fail proof process for applying release. That's why their vinyl products are almost always flawless. 3M, Avery, MACtac and many other manufacturers seem to always be experimenting with different release applications. The Japanese always seem to be ahead of the game whether the product is vinyl, reflectives or free films. I could talk forever about vinyl flaws, some which can't be seen until applied and some time goes by. Direct hot sun light, harsh winters etc. can make these flaws noticeable sooner rather than later. It's just the nature of the beast. I'd love to talk to you more and explain what I've seen over more than 30 yrs. of playing with vinyl.
My best,
Scott

scottgillig
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Thank you! They insist on using 3M at work, and I have been struggling with it. This gives me some information on the causes of the problems, and gives some possible solutions. I wish that they would use Vvivid and Avery, but when I ask why we only use 3M, they say "that's what people want." So I have been trying to do my best. I am looking forward to continuing my wrap on the Dodge Charger, on Monday, to see if I can improve from your tips.

Richard
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Very helpful video. I’m in the middle of wrapping a custom motorcycle tank. My first attempt was with 3M black gloss and I ended up with multiple glue lines! I’m on my second attempt (now using Oracal) and it’s 80% better. Interesting enough I also spoke with a 3M rep who recommended pre stretching / shrinking. The rep stopped short of admitting product fault but did concede that it was a common issue (even for experienced wrappers). Thanks for you’re help.

thebikewrap
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Bro you are the man. I just ordered my first wrap for my Honda Cbr1000rr. If it goes well I already have 8 people lined up and willing to pay for me to wrap their bikes. Ive watched you for a while now and I appreciate everything you do man.

CottonBandit
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Great video! These are some great techniques, but I still feel like 3M film is not where it should be as far as the quality of adhesive they are using. I am not a professional wrapper by any means, I'm not even a weekend warrior, but I feel like an installer should not have to jump through hoops to install a product like this.

hawkeyestiguy
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Are you going to release any videos on the Lamborghini Urus you had in? Would love to see them if you have some.
Also, do you have any experience or could you make a video using PPF?
Keep up the great work!

russ
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hi CK, do some practice wraps outside in the sun on a warm day . 70 to 75 degrees . the extra UV from the sun will allow you to do all kinds of cool stretches . especially on a black vehicle like the one in your vid . I also do a lot of color changes on semi tractors and that bridging method is about the only way to do extreme complex curves and valleys in fenders, hoods, front wheel side body panels . and I have fond that 3M primer 94 is necessary along all body panel edges or the material will wrinkle and pull back up .  and still may lift even if you apply a generous amount of the primer . if you choose to use primer 94, make sure you keep any material from touching the primer until you are sure that's where you want the graphic . you will damage the glue and the air release feature will fail .  when any kind of vinyl material is stretched, the glue is also "stretched" or thinned out . so you end up with less than the factory recommended level of "stick-a-bill-ity" per inch . which voids any warranty made by the manufacturer because of application, not a failure of the material . I have done thousands of wraps over the years, and 99% of the time, I don't get a second chance with extra pieces unless I pay extra for them . I have taught myself how to do a perfect job with the wrong material kind of material in the worst conditions whether I got paid a lot or very little .

chrisbright
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bro if you dont amazon prime a mic for your next video i will lol

datdaytona
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You should expect glue line with most films wrapping the way you showed first . No glue lines when you layed the film in to place. If you heat and lay instead of heat and stretch you won’t see gluelines. Also minimizing the amount stress on film while glassing is key, if you yank it to glass and stick when you need to lift you have a good chance of getting a line

mylesferguson
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I'm going to have to try this method. I'm wrapping some parts on my Ninja motorcycle in 3M Envy Green. I love the color, but first wrap was full of glue lines. I've wrapped with Avery before, and love it, but the 3M is giving me issues. I wish Avery offered the same color.

ROBSOLUTELY
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hi bro....i just start wrapping my civic fc....half way now with lot glues lines, i hope i can learn from your techniques!!

caringissharing
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I got 3M Preferred in 2011. We had to wrap a Chevy HHR front bumper in one piece of 380 in 2 1/2 hrs. Not sure if that's still in the course.

tedlumley
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Awesome info here. I recently ran into a glue line situation for the first time oddly enough. Im surprised it didn't happen earlier. Avery must be really great at avoiding glue lines. But I think what I did wrong was heating the wrap due to it being crinkled and rumpled right off the roll. Just figured that was the way it is. So I heated to repair the vinyl while it was pinned to car at one end. Then the mistake I think was applying with the glassing technique while the vinyl was very soft and pliable. Is that the case?
Not supposed to stretch or glass when the wrap is super soft from heat? Also repositioning by pulling up after heating the wrap and activating the glue was also causing me lines of course. So am I supposed to wait til the film cools down after heating to repair before applying? Or just be very mindful and carful when stretching hot film?

TycoTyrannus
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Man this video is going to help me so much in my shop!

Twap
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Hello ck wraps
Does 3m or avery provide a better gloss black vinyl wrap? Which one looks better?

calvink
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I can get the wrap no prob, no bubbles either. But the glue lines I can't seem to not produce. Used 3m satin dark grey

NoBody-tzfb
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Hey Christian, I've been watching and hopefully learning from you for a while now. I have a car that needs repainting that I want to wrap instead. Sun has completely taken off clear coat and into paint layers but not on all panels, and I cant afford to wrap the whole car, the doors and front quarter panels are in good condition and will be kept silver, here is my question. Do you, or anyone else, think it would look stupid if I wrapped the hood and roof in matt black (or matt carbon) and rear quaters, trunk and bumpers in vivids gloss mettalic psycho blue. What my main concern is, is the rear quarter panel, a pillar and b pillar are all one piece, so that panel would be blue from the rear all the way up over the doors down to the windscreen, with silver painted doors and a black vinyl roof. Sorry for the long msg, but am I the only one that thinks that would look awesome. Also, would it look better to do the front bumper blue? Or black to match to hood. (I tried to merican it up for everyone by not calling it a boot and bonnet lol). Cheers

bigdaddy
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Common denominator would be to not pull AFTER heating correct?

isiahslater