Sim Racing Esports Has A Cheating Problem

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[robwalker]

I'd rather be a slow, honest player than a fast cheater. Having to cheat is like admitting you can't compete. Keep up the investigative journalism, Jimmer; this stuff is important for our community.

[McNab]

I feel for Jarno, in his holding it in clip, there is nothing worse than feeling an intense rage, and not being able to let it out

[fdfd]

Over the last couple years I've paid attention to e-racing of any sort, it seems like there is infinite potential and none taken. So many of the big events have been marred by bugs and technical problems, and of course cheating will forever be an issue, but it's exhausting after a while. If any organization or developer wants to be taken seriously, they need to start by taking their software seriously.

[si]

Prize money, sponsorship deals, professional players ... it all leads inevitably to corruption, whatever the sport. The more money involved, the worse it gets.

[scotthecarnerd]

I think the main problem or issue is, is that it's so unnoticed by companies and it takes people like us to make videos like this to grab others attention to a problem that's been there from day 1

[Desert_Spec]

Reminds me of the old CS 1.6 days, 'Do it at lan' was a common phrase and applies to sim racing too.

[MasterofSpiders]

"I'm helping Codemasters test cheats, honest!!!"
- Alvaro, guilty as fucking sin.

[severousmedina]

If you're legitimately testing cheats for a company and also playing competitively, I really think that should mandate 2 systems so that there is no complication between the 2 uses. Just having things installed can lead to even accidental use let alone purposeful use.

[TheRacePig]

There could be a solution similar to what Trackmania did when there was a big cheating controversy. Basically they created a mod that functioned as effective anti-cheat for the game and required drivers to use it for competitions. That may not be feasible for every sim, so I think there could also be like setups and telemetry to be required to be sent to stewards. I think it's pretty clear that doing nothing and leaving these games as is will if nothing else allow cheating to continue and at worst encourage it. People are bastards and will take any advantage we can get.

[Jardier]

Its just sad to read all this whats going on with cheats and companies doing nothing about it :(

[GeorgioSubs]

I think we are really far away from good sim racing esports right now. These games simply aren't "esports ready", which in my mind means they are extremely stable, almost entirely bug free, and have robust anti cheat. The idea of hosting esports events and incentivizing people with money, connections to a real F1 team, and fame and having zero anticheat is insane. I'd be more surprised to find that anyone ISN'T cheating.

[Skrotobagins]

this sounds so much like what NASCAR used to be like. I cant remember who said it but theres a quote from back in the day that goes something like "if you aint trying to cheat, you aint trying to win". such a shame

[sauce_legend]

Jimmy seems genuinely disappointed that nobody has looked at his footage and accused him of cheating thus far.

At least we know your clean Jimmy! Love you for it lmao ❤️‍🔥

[Yappit]

Jimmy, I think you are a great representation of someone who is passionate and genuinely wants sim racing and it's community to grow and thrive. If there is anyone that I would want as an ambassador of our community, it's you.

[McGuinty]

The Alvaro Carreton situation reminds me of the functions referring to traction control that the FIA found buried in the onboard computers of Michael Schumacher’s championship winning Benetton that allegedly were used only in testing. Damned if it didn’t give me a warm fuzzy feeling of nostalgia.

[luke_rr]

Great video Jimmer. ACC can use motec data from the game to detect cheating but needs to be shared by the cheater. Some leagues make you share your motec data after each event. But there still needs to be anti cheats added.

[mkharrison]

With how popular sim racing esports have been getting, it's a real shame to see cheating like this. Here's hoping that developers can implement better tools to detect cheaters.

[Oscar_Myk]

There's been a big expose on cheating in Tarkov recently, one thing that came out of it was that Valorant's anti-cheat was very good at detecting other cheats (and had to be disabled to install them). Would be interesting to see if it can pick up F1's cheats as well.

[pdxholmes]

It's a weird situation. In RL motorsports we always say "if you aren't cheating you aren't trying", but in arena of e-sports people really (and probably rightly) put their foot down hard. I guess it's the difference between RL engineers finding clever gray areas in the rules, which takes effort and energy, versus just downloading a cheat file. As far as Ronheer, if he's innocent, I feel for him. He's damned if he does damned if he doesn't. We always wonder why people open their mouths in these situations, generally digging themselves deeper holes...but when he says nothing people equally find it suspicious. To really solve this, these big races need to be held on a LAN with event controlled hardware. Give the drivers a choice of wheel rim, seating position and pedals so they feel comfortable, but the PC itself needs to be fully controlled by the administrators.

[driftboiz]

Well done Jimmer! I respect you for speaking up on this. I believe that it needs to be the big guys like yourself that start raising this issue for the games devs to take notice and act on it. So big respect to you for trying to help bring this to attention.
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