Jordan Peterson: Why Authority and Morality is Not a Social Invention

It is claimed that morality is merely a social construct. But it seems to underly human behavior much more fundamentally. Jordan Peterson is a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto

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[christianmarshall]

Is he saying that morality is fundamentally a biological drive to rise in a hierarchy? If so, aren't there moments where a moral decision might compromise your hierarchal position but for the right reasons?

[TheDhammaHub]

Both authority and morality make sense and provide an evolutionary advantage. They very likely existed long before we became self-conscious!

[vacantcontentment]

Am ain't no chimp, i was created by God with clay

[AthenianStranger]

Why Authority and Morality *Are Not* Social Invention*s*

[jamesmiller]

NO! -- "Jordan Peterson: Why Authority and Morality are Not Social Inventions"
For grammar just as with philosophy DETAILS COUNT!
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[J.A.Seyforth]

A few questions here remain in answered by peterson (and in general not just in this video):

- what is the difference then of chimpanzee ethics/morality to human ethics/morality? Because at some point human choice and invention comes into play and we cannot reduce it to just biological drives, authority/hierarchy or neuropsychology.

- is he saying amorality is a social invention then? To be amoral is to be un-natural, un-biological? Since it is an imperative to behave biologically, i.e. we are all of course biological but to act against it with force is to be un natural

- what does love mean in a peterson metaphysics? If love counteracts the top down biological hierarchy then is that un natural too, since it is again in opposition to his definition of instinct for selecting from the hierarchy, true love is actually a perversion of biological hierarchy usually, in at least some sense. E.g. women choosing lower status men because they are more masculine, such as criminals, who aren't higher in the hierarchy, but are momentarily breaking the hierarchy since they aren't put to the top by the other men but try to negate the other men. Either way they will never reach the heights of 'moral' men since they cannot break such a system forever before they will be thwarted, so why do women still flock to them?

- does his idea effectively make us either fully or mostly deterministic creatures whose ventures into indeterminism are like fish out of water? I.e We are in bad territory then when we invent ourselves out of, or augment, our biological nature

I hope he comes back to life soon to answer these questions and complete his being the new oracle of a new generation... Unless he was just sent here just to confuse us back to life and thought

[aakarshchaudhary]

think mess perterson forgot women are equally susptible to corruption as men, andrew tate eh, they see confidence as sign of competence

[leonardu]

This video is very circumlocutory, Gosh

[Abc-nzyi]

All animals have different kinds of relationship between their species. You can't generalize everything. This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard

[panamahub]

he's talking about Chads . right?

[ripmemes]

As much as i disagree with JP's racial perspective, he is a great thinker.

[bradbecker]

Peterson lacks the self esteem necessary to lead mankind. He’s barely half the man that Ayn Rand was! 🙃

Quite the psychologist, but he needs to leave the philosophy to the individualists. His collectivism is showing by his “duty” that he claims we all share to his arbitrary society. Humans are meant to be free to think, not free to bow down and serve.

[randywayne]

Word salad. Studying animals won’t teach you anything about humans.