Is Node.js Killing Python and PHP?

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[BigFishMachine]

run time speed is far less important than write time speed.
This is the most important quote that everyone who's about to start learning tech should hammer into their head

[cristiancoroian]

I've waited 8 minutes for the Ruby joke, but my hero didn't let me down! :D Keep up the good work :)

[kamyarnemati]

I'm a senior software engineer working with a world-class dating brand. I have been on backend and frontend for years. I have managed infrastructure as well.

We have had times when our marketing team had their interaction with media and released articles/interviews/videos and it brought us millions of traffic. The bottleneck is always database read/write. Even bad code affects database at the end, such as extra unnecessary reads or reads that could be combined but separate deu to inexperienced devs writing it.

My point is that choosing a language for your backend takes more reasoning than just simply saying "let's make the entire stack one language" or "we're heading towards serverless future". Servers will remain, trust me. You need to look at the underlying layers of the language like what is it written by, how OS runs it, memory management, caching, and etc when it comes to choosing one language for your problem to solve. Languages are tools for you, you need to choose wisely or the business will not survive as far as it relates to its tech. Always remember, you can't only have a wrench doing everything, that does not work! You can't use screwdriver to tighten a nut!

Our stack is built with Laravel and Vue. We never had problems scaling because it has nothing to do with language. But, the language AND the framework matters when it comes to optimizing the code. And optimizing the code is done first before just simply scaling your infrastructure. Optimizing will bring you lots of improvements in terms of speed with little to zero cost.

Long story short, people tend to choose a framework/language for their frontend or backend based on their opinions only. Do research, check benchmarks, hear from people who've been through real business problems and try not to become a "fan" of the framework or a language.

I hope these words help you, that's all the reason behind sharing it :)

[RAZR_Channel]

The creator of node laving is not necessarily a black or red flag. Engineers (if they're any good) get bored... need something new... that is what lead whoever created it to creating it... and is why they will move on to something else... anyone in Tech who lingers for more than 2-3... isn't going to get far...

[markw]

Simplicity is king. Becoming great at javascript/typescript opens the gateway to making things easier to implement. Python is also great tbh. Both have advantages with Python being better for handling data because most of the AI libraries are built on Python.

[SeventySevenTimesSeventySeven]

Luv your contribution on this subject. PHP was the first language I kinda like understood but never completely mastered it. I have been thinking of learning the latest PHP 8.x and you've helped me not to fall on these trendy languages. My first language is still going to be PHP. I will learn Kotlin later. Thank you for calming the PHP seas against false presumptions from fan boys.

[RingsOfSolace]

I'm in a web systems development class right now and we're learning PHP. But going through forums, I've realized lots of people just don't like it. I'm also a young nerdling but I can't understand why.

Okay guys, if someone comes to me and says they want me to change an existing system, and it's in PHP, I'm not changing how we approach it or the language that we write it in. As long as it's still used you're gonna need to know it. Real life goes beyond your own personal portfolio.

[andrewdillard]

The ruby joke reminded me to leave a like. Thank you for all your ancient coding wisdom. Been learning from you and your videos for almost 2 years now. Many times I know what you're going to say lol

[barryblack]

"learning a second language is a pretty trivial task"

Whoever said that never met Rust.

[WyzrdCat]

As a developer looking for a job maybe it's not a big deal but if you are choosing the best framework to actually build on then it really is. I wish more of these comparisons would focus less on the entirely superficial stuff like what jobs are available and how popular or what resources are available... And instead focus on what the actual inherent strengths of the language are and why you might legitimately want to use one over another for specific use cases.

[MD-bire]

Really enjoy your take on all things programming - appreciate all the awesome content, thanks.

[karna]

I already had a fairly decent grasp of C and JavaScript, yesterday I was learning PHP and it was a very easy task. I just had to learn few new things but the basics concepts in most programming languages are the same

[happyRain]

My company uses PHP Laravel microservices with very high volumes of traffic. From a company point of view, I prefer that the FE and BE use different languages. The reason is that it makes it clear what is done in what scope, nothing worse than a dev exposing logic in the FE that should have remained server side.

[orlovskyconsulting]

Folks, let me tell you business decides what type of language to use, normally it's happen because one of the senior developers got bored and say well lets try something new. In many cases such projects fail and the senior developers say well we overestimated, but it was quite fun experience. The same stuff happens to all what is new in IT. So no node.js is not killing PHP, Python.

[jefferymuter]

Im spending a couple weeks learning PHP to do some freelance work on a wordpress site. I like it. I imagine ill love it once I use laravel. However, Im shocked at how fast I've been picking it up. Its so fun and amazing to finally see how easy it is to merely be switching the syntax and it works similarly to JS. The only hiccup is Im now learning about backend and where things render, why, how to manipulate that, etc.

[pedroelton]

LinkedIn Jobs in USA in November 5th 2022:
Ruby - 7, 329 results
PHP - 11, 556 results
C# - 31, 216 results
NodeJs - 43, 222 results
Python - 124, 246 results
Java - 129, 816 results

[ukaszzbrozek]

I heard that the guy from node.js and deno recently in interview told that he make some mistakes about deno and now he would make different choices. I think that he is just the kind of person that never is happy with his work.

[SanjayKumar-unxf]

I am 4 years experience PHP developer, sometimes it frustrating for me as Is really PHP will gonna end
but this video really helpful for me.
Thanks for sharing information.

[auroraRealms]

I don't think any of these languages is killing the other. All of them have their strengths and weaknesses, and they are here to stay. Each of these languages continues to evolve.

[stasyanko]

Node.js and PHP are pretty different tools for different purposes.
Usually, they complement each other, but do not compete.
It's a common practice to make a project in PHP, but to make an API or websocket in node.js as it copes with big load mush better.
While PHP is good for modelling business logic.