EVERYTHING CULTURALLY RIGHT AND WRONG WITH MULAN II (2004)

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[XiranJayZhao]

MULAN AND MULAN II TOOK PLACE IN THE YEAR 497 PASS IT ON

[CCharmanderK]

"Y'all, this was just straight-up racist."

I lost it.

[frozenweevil]

Xiran: Gets banned from internet by government.
Xiran: Oh no, anyway.

[reshiramlodke]

I wanna see the pillow fight recreated with historically accurate pillows. I wanna hear porcelain break.

[acecat]

Can you imagine how funny it would've been if they did the proposal the ancient Chinese way, like the Li family calls the matchmaker from the first movie to come to arrange a match. She comes in, fawning over being noticed by this prestigious family and flattering them constantly. Then they're like "oh we have someone in mind, we just want you for negotiations and checking the birth dates' compatibility". She's like, "oh yes? And who is the bride you're looking to marry?" 
"Fa Mulan." And she has to contain the rage, subtly tries to trash talk her as a buffoon who poured boiling hot tea all over her and disguised herself as a man... and Shang just finds it funny but his mom and grandma start to get concerned, setting up a conflict where they question if Mulan is too much a warrior and not a proper future daughter-in-law/wife/mom.

[_hunnybe]

"Bisexual Legend Li Shang" is the only name I will accept now

[foxmccloud]

They did Shang dirty with that animation. Our boy didn't deserve that.

[apexartnerd]

The arranged marriage as the main driving argument in this movie annoys me so much! Part of what I loved about mulan in the first movie was that she didn’t want to be different or break from the norm. She was happy to get married and live a ‘normal’ life. She only changed from the norm to save her father. It’s just such a big plot point and her character. They just threw it out the window.

[kaya]

Also, she declared the princesses dead. That means they can't go home. The emperor will now think that Mulan and Shang failed to protect his daughters. Even if they somehow did succeed in getting the treaty, his three daughters are dead. And it's not like they can just bring them back and act like that didn't happen, because if it got out that they WERE alive that would be a big upset. So, the princesses basically lose their family and their high status for three guys they barely know. The emperor is losing his daughters. And like Mulan and Shang are definitely going to be out of the emperor's favor.

[InOzWeTrust]

"And then the Emperor executed the court painter." Literal applause at how that story ends.

[elizabethpruden]

Disney: accidentally includes an era-specific detail
Xiran: TARGET ACQUIRED

[greca]

I can't quite decide what's my favourite sentence from this particular video... "No mom, we belonged to Mongolia" or "You know you've grown up when the adults in Disney movies start making more sense than the protagonists". They are both deserving of eternal remembrance, honestly.

[Macaulyn_]

I randomly remembered this video and got myself thinking that the way they portrayed the soldier trio as incels was such a waste, because they and the princesses actually had potential:

- Now, Yao and Mei didn't have that much chemistry, it felt like they were pushed a little too much, so they'd need some serious rewriting.

- Chien Po's very calm personality contrasting with Su being very energetic was cute. I just hate the fact that they bonded over liking to eat, because it was like "look, he is fat so he likes to eat a lot" and "look, she eats a lot but she is still very thin", but they could have been a cute couple with something else to bond over.

- Ling and Ting Ting actually were the best ones, I love the idea that Ting Ting had a weird laugh and was probably taught to hide it because it wasn't "appropriate for a woman" or something like that and Ling would end up causing her to burst in laughter at one point he'd actually love her because of an aspect of her she was taught to hide.

Hell, this movie would be better if Mulan and Shang were limited to cameos and the stories were focused on the trios meeting and having a better written love story.

[toganium]

For all its faults, it's still better than the live action remake.

[NWolfsson]

"I got blocked by a whole government."
Weird flex, but okay!

[natashamorais]

"Bless her iconicness" and "white people tattoo nonsense" are my favorite lines. I'll use it on a daily bases from now on.

[AuroSya]

I want Xiran to write an animated remake of the Mulan movies. They're one of the writers I would trust.

[xero]

"if you haven't lost to Vietnam once, can you really call yourself a Superpower?"

This was the quote I needed today

[mnk]

European nobles: "Oh no, I've already promised my only daughter to the King of France and now I can't cement our alliance with the HRE!"
Emperor of China: "Hey chambermaids, all of you are now adopted! Yay, princesses! Now off you go marry to those pesky barbarian chiefs, byeeee!"

[billie]

i loved this movie as a kid. but only some moments : the little girls in the beggining, the princesses' designs and their little shoes, that scene where they go fruitpicking, Mulan's amazing beautiful stunning legendary wedding dress.
but i wonder what made the people who worked on this sequel think kids wanted to see Mulan and Shang's relationship problems, Mushu becoming a petty antagonist to keep his job, and three couples with very strange relationship dynamics that i kinda want to unsee. all the while dragging our favorite bicon's good name through the mud by putting him in ridiculous situations. unacceptable.