Racism is Racism | Debate 💢

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[Seaneey]

I'm so sick of people acting like there are no solutions to the problems we face.

[Valdax]

"Whos having that conversation with the police"

Sir, do you know how democracy and local government works ?

[RougeLino]

"we can teach them to not be racist anymore"
😂😂😂😂
sure you can

[friendlyneighborhoodspider]

The only issue I’ve come across in these kinds of conversations is the person wanting to “educate” the other is unable to take and handle any push back or confused and misunderstanding without having a breakdown and getting upset.

[MainerMMA]

Me: watches destiny clip then checks comments
Comments: insert fake intellectual take that barely makes sense.

[angryretailbanker]

It's ABSOLUTELY important to differentiate interpersonal racism and structural racism.

Black kids get an unfair shake in our public school systems. The schools that are primarily black tend to be underfunded. This is because schools are funded generally by property tax, and because black people are typically poorer than whites and own less property, there's less taxes collected to fund the schools.

If you can't differentiate between systemic and interpersonal racism, you'd just assume that the head of the school systems (local, state, or federal) are secretly racist and just keep replacing them with whoever can virtue signal their love of equality the loudest. But knowing that the problem is structural racism, you can take the proper steps to fix the issue.

This is why Ron DeSantis has been explicitly targeting "wokeness", which his lawyers explicitly defined as discussions on structural issues. Because people like him want to keep black people in positions of weakness and disadvantage.

[michaeltalksanime]

Black guy here, I train bjj with police officers all the time. My bjj school regularly going to police departments for self defense. Really nice men and women who doesnt seem racist and I know some personally... But imma tell you right now Destiny is wrong here lol. These guys deny, deny and deny there is a problem structually and think its a bad apple thing. They wont listen.

[marlon]

It doesn't help that the argument for structural racism is usually just saying "the existence of this unequal outcome is proof of racism" and there's never a spotlight shown on the mechanism.

If a system is racist, you need to be able to point to the specific part that's racist about it. If it's systemic, then you should be able to point to the law, policy, or guideline that acts differently towards members of different races and creates the racial disparity.

[Gobacktochan]

This assumes racism is an issue of hearts and minds instead of incentive.

That’s probable what buddy on the bottom was saying

[doublezero]

Now if Destiny could only tell those African American studies professors not to conflate systemic racism with the vernacular word racism. You don't need institutional power to be a racist. Looking at you Micheal Dyson...

[xanox]

at least he sat there and listened without interruption and remained completely respectful towards him

[giloteen]

This was a pretty good convo, but there were a few unfortunate miscommunications right off the bat that kind of made things a bit muddy. Still very civil and hopefully the groundwork is there for better future discussions.

[isamumizuta]

I get where he’s coming from in that the source of the racism means nothing to the person receiving the racism but then what do we do? Do we throw the whole person away or allow them to continue their behavior? Feeling upset and uncomfortable regardless of the intent is fine and justified but when trying to fix the problem, the intent is really important. That’s not to say that you should not feel upset for different intents.

[junk]

I'm really starting to pull away from this structural racism concept, because it's almost used exclusively as if intent doesn't matter at all. Meaning any racial disparity should be thought of as "racism/white supremacy", which completely changes the way we view and fix these issues.

I think it can also incite division like BLM did. Even though I'd say that it wasn't the initial intentions of the movement, you see anti-police sentiment within it and because of that, now it seems like police forces throughout the country carry a more "us vs the public" mindset.

[that-guy]

It’d be cool if you put where you got the clip from in the description my mans.

[MiggyBiggy]

I was today years old when these terms were officially introduced to me, before I had no way of telling because I couldn’t understand the terminology

[jolee]

Today’s racism is the obsession with skin color and not discrimination against a certain race either way it is wrong and should be called out every time!

[asperganoid]

the bewilderment in his question about who would be having such a conversation is what produces that strange confidence in the ideology of abolishing the police.

people think far leftists are just talking out of their backside but for a lot of them there are several layers of partitioned ideological beliefs behind their hot takes (which the person themselves might not be aware of).

and the task of breaking that down so we talk about realistic actionable solutions is first and foremost unearthing those beliefs.

a hard task!

[adrianguinn]

One of the biggest signs someone is working through their own yt privilege is "idk.... Just, ya know, have someone tell them it's wrong"

Do people actually think this is something nobody else ever thought of??

[anthonybrubaker]

This is so weird. I agree with the blue hair guy.