Pioneer DJ DDJ-FLX10 - What they don't want you to know

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Love this video and the honesty! I've been using the DDJ-400 for a year and was looking to upgrade, wanted the DDJ-1000 but it never came back in stock, until the FLX-10. I had my eyes on the RaneFour, but you're absolutely right... Virtual DJ is my main software and it absolutely does a great job with stems, prior to having dedicated "STEM" buttons on a controller.

kevyn
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I do agree, but I also think stems can be used creatively to present familiar songs in new ways to the listeners, and I think listeners will appreciate that. The more stems are practiced with, the easier it will be to sprinkle them into our sets, in addition to what we already do.

donnycollins
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Very true, I’m in a bit of a budget and my ancient controller started playing up recently, so I just bought an FLX-6. I use a focusriteUSB audio interface for the sound so I can get high quality and balanced outputs (nice thing about using Virtual DJ is you can use any audio device you like).

Using the ‘stems+FX’ pad page I can get acapella echo out, instrumental echo out and even add and remove the individual parts like bass, drums, etc. so yes the FLX10 can definitely do more but using pads is enough to do some cool stems mixing stuff.

And the FLX6 fits nicely in my existing flight case too.

And with the £800
I haven’t spent on the FLX10 I can get a new MacBook.

No doubt the FLX10 is higher quality in terms of faders and buttons and general build quality, but with an external audio interface and a decent flight case it’s more than good enough for the weddings I do.

Having those extra stems buttons would be nice, but won’t magically make me a better DJ like you say.

There is also the thing of if you DJ at events or bars where you are right next to the crowd, there is always a chance of a drink getting spilled on your mixer, so if that did happen one day, I would be much less upset replacing/reparing a £600 controller than a £1500 one.

andytaylor
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Not crapping on your video but you can't tell people not to upgrade without buying the controller and testing it yourself. I have this controller and it's way better than the DDJ 1000. Sound is better, the fader is more responsive, jog wheels are better, and are more customizable than the DDJ 1000. Many more features to name but just a few. THIS SEEMS LIKE A LAME REVIEW JUST TO CRAP ON A VERY GOOD CONTROLLER SMH. BUY THIS THANG PEOPLE TRUST THE PROCESSES.

DjRatedRShow
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Totally agree..Its about the DJ not the controller..song selection is key.. 🕺

davidmark
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Which to buy DDj FLX10, Rane Four, Hercules Impulse T7, or DDJ-REV 5, . It's nice to have choices. Can't wait to see what's coming in 2024 and what new innovative feature will be the newest craze since STEMS.

FarebrothaChronicle
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They could add the option for high quality rendering for faster though.


I bought the FLX 6 six months ago and I’m selling it now the FLX 10 got released.
I’m used to the pro club gear and the FLX 6 is crippled in so many ways that it was just annoying to work with, even though it gets the job done.

osiris
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The FLX10 can also be used for rekordbox if you want to use the serato stems, so for the price I think it's cheaper than the DDJ 1000 or the 1000SRT, Regards

dj_villanomix
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I’m using DDJ400 for a quiet some time now. And I’m ready for upgrade. Already signed up for the FLX10
I like rekordbox for me this is the way forward

peterreichardt
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First 30 seconds… thank you. That’s all I needed.

Mdnesseptx
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Hahaa! I’ve had an SRT since they dropped and just picked this up. I’m glad I did. This is a beast!

djkingshameek
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Is the stems feature really that big of a deal? It’s been on Traktor for years & I never heard many people raving about it.

lustforlow-end
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If you’re a beginner or a home DJ, this is a great dj controller for the following reasons:

-the layout is very similar to professional mixers and CDJs.
-the screens in each deck and loading knob allow you to rely on your laptop very little.
-you can switch between 2 and 4 decks within the two decks in the controller with one button, but the 4 channel mixer allows you to connect CDJs as well.
-Stem separation is rapidly becoming mainstream and this controller will allow you to become familiar with the tech for future gigs as you grow in your skills.

The stem tech sounds better when you edit through the Sound Color FX in the mixer.

If you have a DDJ-1000 it might be worth upgrading depending on you as an individual. Might be worth saving twice as much to buy the Opus. Where this stands, it’s a great bang for your buck.

Don’t let a guy telling you to pick Virtual DJ over a semi professional set up tell you what a good controller is.

STFOX
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Agreed on all fronts. I'm looking at everything coming out and can't help but think this is a test round. There's just nothing out here that competes with the Prime 4 in standalone and controller mode. What I see is poking and prodding around it's features to see if the market will support something else that big and powerful. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my opinion.

thedjwillied
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hmm, i don"t agree, you don"t have volume control of each part & you can't isolate parts on the ddj-1000. You also don't have individual fx on the stems. You can use serato if you want the best stems & wait for the upgrade from rekordbox, i'm sure they will inplent same thing as serato, that you can 'prepare' stems for better quality. For me its a logical upgrade from the ddj-1000. Hope to get it this week!

audiovibes
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I ended up getting the FLX10 and it should be here at my house on Tuesday, I was waiting for it to come out but I wasn’t going to get it, but made a decision to get it, not for stems or that light DMC thing, I just got it because I felt it was the best choice for me at this moment. If I don’t like it I can sell it, I actually wanted to get the Rane Four but I opted not to get it. I’d like to make a video and share it on YouTube. Thank you for the video and your reviews etc.

DJBennyswift
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A lot of good points, which I get, some I don't. Yes, if you use VDJ, any controller is great because you map whatever combo of buttons to whatever you like. I can do stems with a DDJ-SX, no problem. However, I'm getting this controller for two reasons. One, rekordbox "universe", I want in, I want to be able to prep music and play wherever I like, with the feel of the machines as close as possible to a club environment. Less creative? Surely. But I'll be able to adapt quickly to whatever Pioneer stuff is out there, and I can also load my music/cues/... on other gear like the Prime family. VDJ remains also, but for the being at home, creative part, as it puts you in a very specific and customized environment. Here is how I see the industry will end up with stems. NOT live calculated, but precomputer and embedded in a fileformat with more than 2 channels, containing the stems. Once we have a standard on that, we can load up tracks and the gear will be able to use the stems with little to no computation (add/substract basically) VDJ can do that today, with MP4 containers (but under another file extension). FLAC or AIFF can handle multichannel, it's just deciding now where to map what, where, and make the firmware aware. Reason two - standard layout and full size jogs.

DjTonioRoffo
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I'm about to upgrade to flx 10. but I changed my mind after this video will keep my ddj 1000❤

deejaytamo
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💯 facts!!! Been DJ’n for 15 Years, I have Reloop turntables w/Rane72 mixer, DDJ-SRT1000, & RaneFour, & I started with Technics 1200’s & DJM-909..
They all do the exact same things, it’s basically preference at this point, plus yes you’re only as good as you practice, these don’t make you better!

DJDBoyie
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This is on serato btw. Theres an issue with stems where if u dont have it on auto analyze which is bad cuz it eats up the cpu and causes audio drops, on the board when u hit any of the 3 buttons it has to analyze once it does it auto-turns on even if u do a turn on and off. Sometimes while it re analyzes it stops all of the audios completely, so the club will be silent, if it happens to you, just hit the stems buttons until audio comes back. Sometimes doing doubles (when u clone a track from one side to the other side) audio may not be available, to solve this: just click any stems button at the top until audio comes back to it. Sometimes while clicking the stems button on the left side, may completely mute the right side output audio. Or maybe my controller is faulty 😆😆😆

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