Some Players Think Caesar King Buffs Are TOO MUCH | But Is This Actually True?

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These are my thoughts as to why people might not like the Caesar King buffs in ZZZ, let me know your thoughts in the comments below!

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro
0:07 Why people are disliking her buffs
1:11 Just how strong is her buff really?
2:29 Is this really power creep?
3:15 why does this hurt other characters?
3:48 Wrap up + Outro

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I'm mad because I was a Caesar fan before she was meta 😡 Now I'm gonna be lumped in with metachasers if I say I like Caesar

Shanaha
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She's the first 5 star defense unit, it makes sense she'd set such a high bar as she literally has to set the standard and convince people she's future-proofed when we know full well from HSR that characters can lose relevance _fast_

kagakai
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I think a lot of people were planning to skip her and don't like to adapt.

jaegybomb
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I am pretty confident that the biggest reason people are upset is FOMO. She was an easy skip a few days ago because Defense units weren't all that. Now, they have to rethink things.

I had a brief moment of thinking this way but quickly disregarded it for wanting Jane. I've enough for 180 pulls, so I will get her with hard pity if necessary.

triviumhead
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Personally i do not understand it, with her current buffs she now is on the same level in calcs as qingyi and von and surpasses seth for jane teams, which as an s rank support she should.

jakubbarczyk
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I've already made up my mind on getting Caesar before any leaks or buffs lmao
But I believe people simply think she's too strong to pass up because she can do literally everything, sustain, stun, buff and maybe even damage once we get to see those numbers. Not to mention that her versatility even go to team building and field time, she pairs very well with Lucy which means that this duo will probably be meta for both fire and physical teams, she can play very well with minimal or a lot of field time since her buffs allows her to stay off field and her stun capability lets her have great value on field, making her very desirable in a comfort stand point.
I'm a firm believer that enjoyment with the character is still a lot more important than what the character provides, pull for who you like and be patient people, reruns will eventually happen

breezeless_
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What's the point of "early access" if they can't change a unit's kit BEFORE RELEASE to see how a unit would work under actual player's use before they actually release it?

ninetyninenights
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Ben gives significant crit rate value and Seth gives significant AP value. A 1000 atk buff is literally understandable since her other anti-interruption buff isn't actually as substantial as getting attribute buffs. Not to say anti-intteruption buff is bad but its value is entirely situational. A buff that you can utilize in all forms of situation is generally better. That's why Nicole has been going hot lately (she always has been, people are just catching on). Something as universal as a defense debuff has overall great value. Giving an *S-rank* unit something like that shouldn't be an issue at all. Qinyi can literally reach an uowards of 285% damage multiplier on stuns. It ain't that crazy to give a support-oriented unit something like this

Law-of-EnTropy
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You said "Caesar won't invalidate the other characters" but the thing is, the more broken supports come out, the more hp hoyo will give to enemies to make you feel the need for those characters.
Hoyo tends to scale enemies with the new limited units, if the assumption by hoyo is that you have Caesar + any new limited support then the enemies might become so tanky that you are no longer able to clear the new enemies fast enough to get max clears (yes, you could say you don't need to get full stars on all endgame levels but we'r talking from the viewpoint of a comptitive player that cares about the meta)

ahlemlora
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I'm skipping her for the time being. Depending on how she will turn out I may get her on her re-run. I'm more interested in how she will feel to play than anything else.

chillax
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If people don't like Caesar, they don't have to get her. 😭Caesar's buff is perfectly fine.

zo.gaming
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I was a Caesar believer back during the leaks before the buffs.
Skippers in shambles, Rat simps obliterated. My Queen reigns supreme.

goblez
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Let me get THIS straigh

When a char IS shit af the community cries

When a char have a high value as a buffer

The community say IS to much?

You know what, fuck THIS.

armius
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I wanted Caesar every since i saw her in the launch trailer. Had no idea who she was but i set my sights on her.

The buff is a bonus for me as i dont care how strong she is. Im sure gachas are made to pull favorites.

Why should average players care about meta this early in the game unless you're a CC or a whale?

Chaos
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Feels like Jane doe fans are pissed the defense character will be busted LUL, Now they got to choose between them.

DaVaiXIII
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With all the love Kettei but this for me reads as when Acheron came into HSR. Everyone who was worried about how it was going to affect into the enemy scalling having a DPS jumping from doing on average 100k damage to 500k.
People who were worried about what this meant for future content and units and enemies and what this would mean in around 6 to 1 year life on the game, were told to shut up because of the hype regarding the character.

I understand what you say but as another commenter said here a good developer do not bumb the numbers of their units like this when a character is maybe not generating as much hype as they intended. @Zeik56 or @malevolentmoose explained it better than I can. I have not seen any critiscm regarding Caesar numbers and abilities as not valid.

AmomenttobeReal
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yes people should think she's strong and pull for her, she's definitely not a bait character before section 6

januaritus
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Yeah. ngl I skip Jane Doe cuz I have M1 Nekomata... and her W engine and I want more elemental weakness coverage.. since we don't have a silverwolf in this game or unit who ignore elemental weakness. Depending on Ceasar buffs I staying or not I might skip her.. and burnice.. and wait for idk.

marclenraymagdaraog
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Hot take: They wanted to avoid another Zhongli situation so they buffed them during testing so that the finished sellable product is not a hot piece of garbo that hoyo will take heat for.

And therefore the complaints are invalid because Caesar's not even out yet so everything is still subject to change

prixivus
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I'm skipping Caesar because I don't want the game to become easy mode when I can just dodge. But I do think Caesar is amazing for people that have a much harder time clearing bosses and this will make it way more easier for them. However as an f2p I would rather save for the next banners than spend it on this banner instead

lordhades