THE NEW CHEATER SWITCHES...

Best Switches So Far...

(drunkdeer apparently uses its own thing and this switches are not compatible!!!)

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00:00 - Introduction, What is Rapid Trigger?
00:36 - Switches
01:22 - Different Switches benchmark
03:39 - GEON Raptors results and why they're better
04:40 - Different switches Key 'mis-inputs'
05:46 - GEON Raptors don't have 'mis-inputs'
06:58 - The worst switch
07:29 - More Switches Benchmark
08:41 - Tierlist

[RoastedSushii]

Tip: Don't calibrate on the Sayodevice by pressing down hard, press down lightly. If you press down hard, you can cause the calibration to read more than what you get from a normal keypress such as when you play osu! This causes the key to release by the finger shaking at certain settings no matter the switch. Gentle is better!

[LittleLily_]

All that raw data is, is a measurement of the magnetic strength the hall effect sensor under the key is measuring. As the key is pressed down, the magnet in the key switch gets closer to the sensor on the board, and so the raw value goes up. So basically all a higher value means is that the magnet in the switch is either bigger/stronger or it got closer to the sensor. Given the distance to the sensor shouldn't differ much as the switches are all similar shapes, it just means that the raptor switches have stronger magnets in them.
By itself, a stronger magnet does not equal better, so the claim in this video that higher raw data = better isn't necessarily correct, but what a bigger magnet might do is make the sensor see more variation between the minimum and maximum readings, and therefore be able to have a higher effective resolution. This would depend on the specification of the hall effect sensors in the board though and what sensitivity they have between various ranges of magnetic strength. For example one hall effect sensor might be more accurate between values of 200-2000 or something like that, and another might be more accurate for lower values of 20-200. So for maximum precision you need a combination of a switch that is fairly stable (doesn't wiggle much) with a magnet who's strength lines up with the range where the hall effect sensor you're using is most accurate.
With most mechanical keyboards, people are used to the switches being all that really matters, whereas with this style of switch all the smarts are really on the board, not the switch, so the switch is just determining the strength of the signals given (which isn't always stronger = better) as well as some of the stability of the readings (like if the moulding allows the magnet to wobble more).

[GoatedASFK]

POV: you boght a few of them to test but forgot u dont have a hall effect keyboard

[d-floe]

I dont think I've ever heard of someone complain about the quality of GEONs products. He's clearly a man with an eye for sheer quality. Absolutely brilliant.

[Grundoko]

DrunkDeer keyboards use their own switch design which is not compatible with Wooting and other hall effect switches, because the switches used by the DrunkDeer have the magnets off-center.

[Rlsc]

Raptor HE uses optimzed gateron mold, which is same size of spring coil and housing so that you can swap any parts with gateron ks switches. Overall they were same design as gateron ks/lekker series but improved stability, and having more magnetic.
Please attention that any drunkdeer keyboard, atk keyboard(it uses gateron 2.0 but different housing design) or any keyboard that uses different swicthes design to gateron could may not compatible with it.
Fun fact: you can swap lekker switches stem to raptor HE and get the maximum stability and wobble issue was insanely eliminated, we calling it suturing a switches.
REMEMBER DONT BUY ANY GATERON 2.0 THAT WITH SQUARE MAGNET THEY ARE DIFFERENT MAGNET DIRECTION AND POSITION

[dragonwulin]

I don't think the raw data matters really. The keypad is still pulling data at the same speed, and since it rounds to the nearest 0.1mm, the larger data numbers won't matter. Raptor HE has a much stronger magnet which is why the raw data (i think magnetic force) is larger. Also I vouch for the gateron jade switches which is very smooth, very light, and has shorter travel distance which is really underrated.

[sguzaki]

1:04 Well not every keyboard actually, all of these are North facing magnetic poles which are incompatible with Akko's HE boards. But the good thing is, almost every HE switch is compatible with the Sayodevice, North and South poles. The only incompatible switches here are normal contact switches and HE switches with protrusions into the PCB.

[sarinthegamer]

Can you please compare STICKY RICE HALL EFFECT SWITCH to the other Top 2 HE switches in this video …?

Type: Hall Effect
Actuation force: 40g
Bottom out force: 50g
Total travel: 3.5mm
Mount type: PCB (5-pin)
Top housing material: Polycarbonate
Bottom housing material: Nylon
Factory lubed

[SuperSlokky]

The issue seems to be related to the build quality of the switches. One switch wobbles while the other does not, and due to the rapid trigger being set very tightly, it registers a keypress. The row data is quite basic, the switch have a magnet attached to the stem, but the sensors located on the board, and why readings are so different confuses me. Probably magnet strength....

[justbubba]

I've been using an apex pro since before rapid trigger was even an idea. Hall switches are genuinely the best decision I have ever made.

[osku]

How can the raw data matter in terms of which switch has the wiggle problem? Wouldn't a more sensitive switch be more likely to expose differences in build quality resulting in the wiggle? I mean that's not true but I just don't get why and is it really perceivable the difference between a 100 points switch and a 1000 when 4mm / 100 is already so small that you can't perform small enough finger movement to not activate it anyway?

[BenjaminG]

I have only 1 question, 0:11 what is that document?

[Eggawii]

That’s it… I’m convinced… I’m buying the switches

[tonisnooker]

I liked the looks of the swtich ngl. Didn't know they'd performed better too

[Iak_Gnaw]

1:13 *works with PCBs that have the sensor on the bottom of the switch, my friend cant get the raptor he to work on his polar65 (sensor is in front of the switch)

[cliftonchurch]

When trying to explain why raw data number = better, I would compare it to screen resolution. A 65" TV is the same size no matter what, so the only thing that can effect image clarity is screen resolution, where more pixels means more visual clarity. In the same way a key switch has a standard travel, the total distance a key can be pressed, and so the only way to get more accurate data is better resolution. In that way, if you double the resolution you can be twice as accurate in the key's exact position.

As someone who had a Dreamcast, and is now showing a preference for hall effect joysticks in my game controllers, The killer device for my PC gaming is a hall effect keypad like the old Logitech G13 (which I still run daily) with each key having haptic feedback. Let me get feedback based on what percentage of keypress I'm pushing directly back into that finger.

[pannn]

In this video, the host explores the latest gaming switches, specifically focusing on Geon Raptors. The title immediately grabs attention with its reference to "cheater switches, " hinting at the potential advantage these switches may offer to gamers.

The video likely begins with an introduction to Geon Raptors, providing background information on their design, mechanism, and intended benefits. The host may discuss the key features of these switches, such as actuation force, travel distance, and tactile feedback, highlighting what sets them apart from other switches on the market.

Good video make more plis

[StRM]

it's just the magnetic field strength mate..as long as it's in the min and max range is fine..you don't gain anything with a stronger magnet the step size will be bigger, what is important is than min and max field strength is in the range of the hall effect sensor sensitivity, edit watching the video again, the issue seems to be a combination of switch mechanical fit tolerance and hall effect sensor sensitivity; it's possible that on the raptors you are maxing the sensor but from the calibration value i don't think so, looks like it should go up to 2048

[Neeeeeeeeeeeee]

Hi, I bought an o3c and I have raptor, jade and lekkers switches, but they all give an average of 800-900 raw, even with the configuration you showed in the video, what could it be?