Wolf Expert Diane Boyd on Reintroduction, Hunting, and Wolves 'Saving the Planet'

JRE #2213 w/Diane Boyd

[reggierico]

In 2012, I was elk hunting in central Idaho near Elk City. The first thing I noticed is that, although I found plenty of sign in the area, the elk were not acting like a typical rutting stage. Hardly any movement, no bugling. This was a bow hunt in September. There was also wolf sign, and plenty of it. Everywhere. One morning, as I rode my ATV to an old, gated logging road, I parked, and as I dismounted and looked behind me, there was a black juvenile wolf not ten yards away, staring at me. As soon as we made eye contact with each other, she was a dot, just gone. Two nights later, as I was sleeping in my tent, which was about 150 yards off the Ridgeline road, I heard a wolf howl, very close and very loud! I sat up and grabbed my Glock 20, listening intently. Within a minute or so, another wolf joined in, then another, then another, then another. Soon, the entire pack was howling their heads off. It was so loud that if I had not been alone, I would not have been able to hear any conversation. I slowly got up, out of my cot and as soon as I opened the entrance to my tent, they abruptly stopped! Silence. They were there, in my camp, telling me that I was not welcome there, in their territory. It was an awesome, scary, experience that I will treasure for all my days.

[darinfry]

I like that not only is she a wolf expert, she is also a fellow hunter, so she can come at the wolf issue from both sides. Very good podcast

[timsparks]

I could listen to her ALL DAY. She is such a "no nonsense" kind of person with up close and personal experience with wolves and their behavior. It's hard not to be enamored by her. She doesn't take sides on the issues about wolves, she just presents the facts from her vast experience with them. We need more people like her studying the effects of wolf reintroduction. Great show with her. Can't get enough of her "expertise". Way to go Joe!

[ScottyDMcom]

"Corner crossing." *Recent happening on the west face of Pikes Peak:* A National Forest Service trail crossed the corner of a landowner's bit of private paradise. It was all good for years, but eventually this fellow decided he wanted to give his daughter (and her husband) a chunk of land. Problem was the only spare chunk of land he had featured non-existent access. So this landowner thought he could strong arm the NFS into trading a crap piece of land for a good piece of land. He put up a fence and a sign, threatened to close the trail, sue the Forest Service, etc. I was part of a group of volunteers who rerouted the trail around the corner of private land. Now the landowner couldn't sue the Forest Service because the issue was fixed.

The landowner messed up. The NFS doesn't do anything they don't have to. The guy should have contacted his Representative to get a law passed to force the NFS to swap parcels.

Also the land in question was very steep, and covered in boulders and trees (standing and dead). The best and highest use of such land is as a buffer between you and your neighbor.

FYI the problem trail is the beginning segment of a cluster of 5 routes, listed on AllTrails with "Horsethief" in the title and located in Pike National Forest. "Horsethief Falls Trail" is the shortest, and on the AllTrails map you can see the corner of a white rectangle touching the trail.

[poolhall]

2:38 I like how she takes full ownership of what she was participating in, despite the fact that Joe absolve her with the "only following orders" line.

[abdu_jilani]

More of topics related to hunting, farming, ecology plz!

[thomasallen]

My grandfather let me name 1 cow when I was a kid. She was never sold but he didn’t let it happen again.

[renelopez]

Fantastic interview..
So nice to see an experts detailed explanation on camera. So fascinating.

[patmagee]

The discussion between 9-10 minutes about private land ownership and corner crossings really hits home for me. I live in Western Colorado where a trophy elk unit is literally in my neighborhood; it is mostly private land and much of the public BLM land within the unit is locked in by private lands. As Joe mentions, the public cannot access this land without trespassing, and permission to trespass is rarely to never given. The land owners stand to make a lot of money selling landowner hunting tags and many of them also run guide services. I have seen them (the outfitting service) advertise "1000 acres of private land with access to even more public land that is inaccessible to the public". The private holdings are created so as to intentionally preclude access to even more public lands so these landowners have nearly exclusive hunting rights to public lands enclosed by their private holdings, without needing to purchase that land. As a 20 yr Colorado resident and hunter, I can barely draw a hunting license in desired units, and the accessible public land is so overcrowded with hunters, it's not even fun anymore. And it gets worse. When you look at the land ownership in the unit I speak of, most of it seems owned by out of state LLC corporations, whose true ownership is virtually impossible to trace. I couldn't even easily ask for permission to trespass if I wanted; who do I ask? Colorado government in concert with Colorado Parks and Wildlife need to stop chasing the money and give hunting back to its residents. They can start by drastically limiting the number of private land hunting tags to landowners who are not Colorado residents, and create a scheme by which out of state landowners are forced to create easements through their property to public lands. AS always, the power and the rights are with the wealthy. My neighbor a blue collar middle income earner was born and raised here in our community. He no longer hunts due to his disgust with the current system.

[affordabledesertliving]

best Rogan podcast ever. Intelligent, thoughtful and truth seeking.

[CTB]

I believe her when she says they are expanding. I live in the northeast part of Iowa and we get a couple 2-3 wolf sightings every year. They found a dead gray wolf laying in the median of I-80 earlier this year in Scott county iowa.

[jamesduda]

Joe knows all about private land hunting

[johncarrigan]

much better than interviewing politicians

[eleynb]

This is the kind of stuff I geek out over, what an interesting lady.

[jibrialyusuf]

My friend told me that as a child, his grandmother didn’t want him or his brothers naming livestock nor forming attachments with the farm dogs as everything served a purpose. At age 10 he had to kill a chicken to learn the circle of life and to understand that you don’t just kill animals unnecessarily. That profoundly hit me coz he’s the most stable and understanding person I know to date. I feel that what we’re missing in society now

[Craig-]

We used to have wolves here in N. Missouri. I think they already reintroduced them here, along with elk. We just had our first Missouri Elk season this past year, I think its fantastic❤

[paulb]

I remember her doing another podcast, and all the animal "welfare" groups said she has no idea what she was talking about. Like what, she literally wrote the book on wolf reintroduction.😅

[jeffrichards]

As a hunter I always respected the land owners. If they said don't do t go there or don't do something I didn't. It all down to RESPECT.

[Heywoodthepeckerwood]

I live in central Oregon and there are a few ranches that allow full access to public. Some will even have easements to walk through to get to the public land which is nice.

[stevenurioste]

I can't blame them. People are not as honest as you think. You give a little, and they take a mile. If you're not a land owner, you don't understand.