What The Atheists Tend To Miss

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Ep.212

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“It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn’t. They kept going, because they were holding on to something. That there is some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for”

herrDOS
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Every good lie has a bit of truth, but a lie can only last so long, but the truth is forever

christophertreadwell
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Love that JP “clips” are this long 😂❤ can’t even begin to get into deep ideas in 30secomds

illcudead
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What gets me is how certain types of things happen naturally over time compared to spinning a persons wheels around to throw them off balance due to tracks that have been left behind to follow when wandering around in certain locational places when your trying to look for certain markers to help stay the course.

Jeremy-msbd
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Fantastic video. I really enjoyed it.

Professor Peterson, if you can, please speak to Professor John Lennox.

He was the mathematics professor at Oxford University and is a very prominent Christian apologist. He's debated (very successfully, much like yourself) some of the world's leading atheists, and overall, he is just a really kind and strong man.

He (yourself as well) has always reminded me of the verse Matthew 10:16

“Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.”

You both very obviously care and have deep compassion while also being wise and shrewd.

whitestoneandy
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I watched this clip to get Jordan Peterson’s perspective. Why is so much of it somebody else? Jordan Peterson speaks well for himself and does not need anyone else to elaborate or explain.

jonmccormick
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This is why comedians are the truth tellers and not the news casters....

torshops
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In terms of Shakespeare, I think "The Taming of the Shrew" illustrates my situation most accurately, "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

MJCincotta
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Questioning everything should be the mind's default. A weak mind is a servant of tyranny, IMHO.

the_armed_gardener
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"Every story ever told really happened. Stories are where memories go when they're forgotten." That quote is way too poignant to have just been in an episode of Doctor Who.

joshuastrawser
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For someone who complains about post-modernism, Dr. Peterson sure adopts a post-modernist view of truth when it comes to religion.

MTodd
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The most beautiful thing about fiction is that it is left to the reader/viewer to determine what's "in it" for them.
Not everybody is going to see what you see and what they saw is just as valid to them as what you saw is to you.

jamesdietz
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I was a teenager when I read Crime and Punishment and Sonya really impacted me. I'm female but all I had known up to that point were trashy females who WANTED to be whores. My mother, my so-called "friends." I felt so alone for wanting to wait for sex and praying to God. Sonya seemed so pure and gentle and loyal. That's who I wanted to be, not these progressive harpies that only care about themselves. I think the story of Adam and Eve and their downfall is a cautionary tale about feminism - submitting to females, not god.

squidward
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Love petersons content. M discovering love and deep depression at the same time as healing from baseless substance abuse

comeatfonbrian
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I think I have better answer to Jordans question. When we read, after our prayer, and place ourselves within each character one at a time sometimes we find that once completed we are actually more than when we started. Not learning per se but becoming.

frankstein
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I love it when I am listening to someone intelligent and they are describing something I have been thinking, but in different words. It feels like confirmation in feeling that whatever it is... is really from God like I thought.

A while back I was sitting in the living room .. I think it was Easter weekend? or was I watching a royal wedding? I can't recall now... but I wasn't watching something that had ANYthing to do with the thought. It just came out of nowhere. It felt like God was walking me through a series of reasoning.

Before even Adam was created God said, "Let Us create them in Our Image." This is so packed with information!

This means this statement applies to EVERY single human that has ever existed, exists now, or will ever exist. Also.... there is the understanding here that God is more than one.... so if God needs three divine beings to be fully represented.... there is no possible way for one human to be a full image of Him.

So what does all THAT mean!? As far as I can tell in the past several years since these thoughts have occurred, it can only mean one thing (and please if anyone has a different perspective that it can mean something else... please chime in!). I believe that this means that we all... each and every one of us that have ever existed, exist now, or ever will exist, we all hold a piece of His Image. (and I'm not even yet getting into what that exactly means...)

This means that anytime I am meeting or interacting with someone... I have the opportunity to see the part of that individual that reflects God. This also means that I have a responsibility to the piece that I myself possess. That piece is within me... how do I find it and how do I steward it well?! I want to help it present as easily as possible. I don't want it mucked up with pride, or greed or anything else that might take away from everyone seeing Him when they are with me. I don't want to "hide it under a bushel."

What Dr. Peterson just finished discussing at min 12:08.... he says it differently.... but it's basically the same thing.

It's hard living in truth, like he discusses in other videos. But I figure that is where the piece of Him must reside. The truth of my perspective. It's the only thing that is unique to each individual. There are themes that are familiar from person to person. we all experience death for example.... grief. But our experiences of those things are very intimate and personal. The honesty of life through the lens of my perspective is what can offer others help or comfort.... which is usually the first ways people experience God, through help/comfort. I have a lot of human baggage that gets in the way of being able to communicate well all the time... but I am learning. I believe that is what living life is learning how to best communicate/reflect the piece of Him that resides in us through offering up our perspective of this experience called life.

caydancebloom
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Thank you prof. Jordan Peterson for SPEAKING THE TRUTH ! ❤

Jacek_videos
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Jordan I have to say that I THANK GOD for you.

jonathannewman
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when Jordan Peterson talks about the bible its like his platinum version of himself. So profound. we all Love it

gabepoirot
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Sure, Jordan, as an atheist, I agree that most of my fellows fail to appreciate some of the value of the fictional stories of the Bible. But on the other hand, Christians and other theistic people tend to fail to recognize their holy books as being fiction at all, which is what drives most atheists nuts over those books and why they tend to rail against them as being taken as historically true or often even morally true.

Some ancient stories have value when taken non-literally, but plenty of the stories in the Bible, especially in the Hebrew Scriptures, are not "morally true, " as they teach some truly abominable morals. (See: Genesis 22, Exodus 21, Leviticus 26, Numbers 31, Deuteronomy 28, the genocides of Joshua, Job, etc). As an atheist, I had befriended a local church and found great meaning and value in socializing there for a year and a half, baking for the entire church, cleaning it up some mornings before going to work, and performing hospitality during their fellowship time. But then I attended a Bible study that focused on some of these fictional stories, and I gave rather clear moral assessments of them, pointing out the abusive relationship dynamics between God and His people (Genesis 22, Leviticus 26, Deuteronomy 28, and Job). I was responded to with horror for daring to suggest that you should have basic standard and conditions, setting healthy boundaries in all your relationships, including the God you choose to worship and enjoy the most intimate of relationships with. After a year and a half of fellowshipping with this church, I suddenly had my motives for being there brought into question, being asked why an atheist is even attending their church and being accused of only wanting to argue, despite not arguing at all. I was merely pointing out the obvious immorality of threatening to have people's wives ravished by other men and forcing parents to eat their children for not keeping to the covenantal relationship God had laid out (Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28). It is a maddening experience to become a social pariah for sticking to the moral principle that child abuse is always evil, no matter what context someone wishes to give it (Genesis 22, Numbers 31, and the genocides of Joshua). I have stopped attending that church, and I have given up on trying to socialize with churches at all at this point.

benjaminsnyder