Alice in Wonderland, Lost in Adaptation ~ The Dom

How much was Lewis Carroll and how much was Walt Disney?

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[CJCroen]

"Everyone in Wonderland was insane but not stupid."
THANK YOU.
The whole idea with Wonderland is that it makes sense, but doesn't make the kind of sense we're _used to._
To quote the Caterpillar in the 1999 Hallmark version: "Everything has a purpose, even here."

[firebladetenn]

“If one drinks from a bottle marked poison, it’s sure to disagree with one sooner or later.” Love the book and the movie.

[donovan]

Okay! If Disney adaptations are now on the table, I'm BEGGING you, Dom, you-beautiful-example-of-manliness-you, to do The Hunchback of Notre Dame! Please!

[livclark]

I think the reason this story is so popular for filmmakers is that the original book is so weird in of itself it just allows for all sorts of creative lee-way. _ANY_ interpretation of the story is correct!

[mandymaclean]

"Short story? What version was he -- oh wait, he's probably not reading the annotated Alice...the version where the notes in the margins occasionally get so long they have to stop the story to fill pages with notes."

On the plus side, the annotated version walks through how Wonderland is actually a mathematician's fever dream

[livclark]

9:20 The fact that even Tim Burton and Jan Svankmajer's versions didn't include this scene is a testament to the utter nightmare fuel of it all.

[DetectiveSpratt]

If I'm right they actually meant to include the mock turtle and the gryphon, but they were cut for time's sake. Their designs would later reappear in a Jell-O commercial. Dead serious.

[criticalmaz]

I think my biggest pet peeve is when people mistake the Queen of Hearts and the Red Queen for the same character. Well, that and, say, making an adaption of an adaption rather than the source material so it all ends up looking incredibly inbred.

[Tadicuslegion]

Talk about a film that is still one of my all time favorites and a book that's held up so well for over 150 years

[cheezemonkeyeater]

I've both read the book and seen the movie. I liked the book's story better, but I did enjoy the visuals of the movie.
The movie's Queen of Hearts is actually a mix of two characters from the two books - The Queen of Hearts (obviously) and the Red Queen from Through The Looking Glass. The line "All ways are my ways, " is the Red Queen's line, and it's a reference that the queen go on any square on the chess board in a way that no other piece can.

[livclark]

One of the few books that hasn't been overshadowed by it's famous film adaptation.

[Xehanort]

There's even a line in Through The Looking Glass that makes clear it's all a dream. "Are you the dreamer or merely part of someone's dream?"

[RoseWaltz]

I was always sad they left out the Duchess and the Baby and her poem.

I remember in high school we were talking about poetry and I realized that the caterpillar's poem "How Doth the Little Crocodile" was a take on "How Doth the Little Busy Bee" and how excited I was to read the original, only to get bored because there was no crocodiles or fishes in the original.

[sirusbones]

I'm glad you showed clips of the 1999 version. I know the Disney film is a classic, but that one is my favorite version, and it is by far the most faithful to the book.

[Orion_TheyThem]

6:39, Alice Through the Looking Glass included that in their storyline. And I loved it. I also loved that they made Time an actual person.

[PazuzuAll]

When I first read the book as a teenager, I assumed the part where Alice punts Bill out of the house's chimney was a joke about the Houses of Parliament's ability to pass laws.

[thesisypheanjournal]

Jabberwocky is the name of the POEM, not the CREATURE!

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!"
"The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame...."
"And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?"

[joinmarch]

In Disney's defense regarding the changes, there's only so many things they COULD do with just one film, and likely would have added more if they didn't run out of time. As for the sequel, Disney likely DID want to make another film, but since Alice didn't do too well in the 50's, the idea was scrapped. Side note, with the 50's box office bombing in mind, is it any surprise that they re-released it in the 60's and gained a much bigger following?

[TheDaykotah]

In my childhood I made a point of reading all the books that had been made into the Disney films I so loved. Alice's Adventures In Wonderland and Through The Looking Glass were my favorite books over every other original story I read. Really worth a read to anyone who wants a refreshing bit of literature.

[benjaminwambeke]

A lot of things like the duchess and the mock turtle were planned for the movie, but were cut for both time reasons and to make it flow better as a movie.