The Dark History Behind Alice In Wonderland 🍄 #shorts

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[Djkdraws]

Lewis Carroll was actually pretty tame for the Victorians in terms of child nudity, back then it was not a faux pas to photograph children in that manner but rather a depiction of the innocence of childhood

[droth]

I read somewhere that he was actually sleeping around with a lot of other men's wives, but since polygamous relationships were frowned upon, someone started a rumor that "he just really loves the children!" as a cover story. Somehow, being obsessed with young girls was more acceptable than sleeping with a married woman at the time.

[mcssugardaddy]

I don't think you realize that nudity wasn't seeing the same way as it was nowadays back then. Nudity actually used to be seen as a sign of purity especially in children. Plus he had her parents consent. So pictures like that weren't unnormal. Not to mention it was actually rumored that he was trying to get with her mother. Which is why he wasn't allowed to see anyone in the family.

[sophiachou]

Back then for post cards the parents would photograph of their children completely nude. So back then it wasn’t unusual at the time

[rixys]

Does no one realize that she doesn’t blink

[vickiezaccardo]

He was actually infatuated w Alice' s older sister. Also, photos of young gitls was ' trending' during those times.

[williamswonderland]

And for another thing all the children that Lewis Carroll met all reflected fondly upon him later in life, every single one

[williamswonderland]

Actually the real reason why they might have cut ties with the author was most likely because he still a kiss from Alice's oldest sister and wanted to marry her which lives unacceptable. For some reason I don't remember why

[williamswonderland]

Actually those photos were for Christmas cards and it was very common back in the Victorian era to send nude photos of your children as Christmas cards I don't know why but apparently the thing back then best to leave it there.

[tkiesailastname]

This is one of those things that we aren't actually sure if it's actually pedo or not because photography was actually very new at the time. Yeah by today's standards, definatly creepy but by that time's standards it's really hard to say because none of us lived in that time period so we don't know what was "normal" or not.

[obsessedwithtvseriesx]

ok but the oysters story really traumatized me as a kid

[mxths.x]

This is taken in the context of now but when it was happening it was normal

[Limerant_Evangeline]

Miss- I hate to break it to you, but I don’t think you did your research. Taking photography of n-de children was very common in the Victorian Era. Parents also gave consent and so did the child. On top of that, it was common for parents to send holiday cards with their n-de children in them. It signified purity. It isn’t how you think it is.

[_sprrow]

“How fake do you want this to be?”
“Yes.”

[imdani]

Can't believe top comments on yt would try to defend this. It's still gross no matter what

[neptune_solar]

That was normal back then though. It’s gross now, but back then families were fine with that

[LeiaFerranti]

Its was normal for nude pictures of kids back in 1880 through 1890 ive done my far research and im positive lewis Carroll dident ask her to marry him

[DemonKBL]

And yes I liked my own comment 😊😊

[adriarey]

pretty sure that's cap
alice in wonderland is my favorite fairy tale, i've done my own research on it's origins and lewis carroll.

[Unusual_Break]

Times were much different back then, many children were photographed like that so you have to keep that in mind. Its actually more likely that he was into her older sister who was of age but still very young by todays standards. There is evidence to support this. Caroll was not of the social class her mother approved and her virtue couldnt dare be questioned. There are letters supporting this and they created the narrative about him being too affectionate toward Alice to throw off the scent of the older sister. Because she was of age (still incredibly young) it would have been very scandalous and tarnish the Little family name. Ive researched this extensively and there is a yt video about this as well. He also took a full frontal nude photograph of the older sister as a pubescent teen. Which, goes beyond the nude children thing. Small nude children were seen as more like cherubs but a clearly developing teen is very different. This is what myself and many others believe. It was also known he played a "kissing" game with girls the older sisters age. Like many, witty and spunky small children, he did love Alice much in the same way a lot of adults like being around small children like that. Stubborn and funny, spunky little kids.