SONY BRAVIA 9 Disappointment? All Hype? Or awesome!

Today's video is on the brand new Sony Bravia 9 mini led. The Bravia 9 just released and has been met with much praise and much criticism. We are here to address both and bring some balance to Mini-Led vs Oled conversation.

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[valueelectronics]

Thanks for another excellent presentation that goes deep into Sony's new flagship BRAVIA 9 QD MiniLED TV! It was you and FOMO that persuaded me to come up with our exclusive launch promotion that gifts our clients with a 10% store credit with the BRAVIA 9 purchase. Our 85" BRAVIA 9 shipment arrived and very excited for Brian to visit us again and film Sony's 85" BRAVIA 9.

[Hattori_Hanzö]

What is this about? I have the G4 and Bravia 9 and the Bravia 9 is definitely not a disappointment. In my opinion it is the best lcd in existence. People, just wait for proper measurements by Vincent and also Rtings has the B9 in its lab. The B7 is almost equal as the X95L, and the X95L is still a beast. So believe me when i tell you that i'm really impressed by the B9. No real reviews and comparisons have been made. Set it against my G4, then they trade blows. Set it against any other LCD, then it is king

[mohamedahmed]

I haven't seen anyone expecting it to beat the OLEDs so I'm confused by the comment re. resetting the expectation. The expectations seem reasonable given the price and the initial Sony marketing around their local dimming.

Ive seen folks compare it to the G4 and A95L in mixed content, including high APL scenes, and most folks preferred the contrast of the OLED over the high APL of the Bravia 9.

Most folks don't feel a strong desire for anything brighter than these new OLEDs because there isn't much content graded above 1000 nits.

And the OLEDs are okay (not great) in high APL content too.

[Swecan]

I already know I am getting a Bravia 9 it's just a matter of 85" (preferably) or 75". I am coming from LCD FALD. It's nothing but a massive upgrade in everything. Couldn't care less what OLED lovers demand. I know what I want and need. This doesn't mean I don't like OLED. I would also contemplate one, but they have flaws that I don't want to deal with in MY use case scenario. I use my TV as PC monitor and I do NOT disable any ASBL to void warranties. I use my TV for everything including movies and games and PC stuff. It will burn in because of sheer amount of use. The YT logo is like a mini CNN logo as well. I use YouTube a lot. I don't want my desktop dimming from ASBL.

I am fully aware that some blooming could be seen here and there. But I also don't treat my MiniLED like an OLED in FMM mode sitting in the dark. I sit in a dimly lit room. So already there the ambient bias lighting help with any downsides, even if not eliminating it. I prefer brightness and HDR impact. I also prefer shadow detail to the point I rather have lifted blacks at times to SEE everything than black crush.

I come from 34ms 4K 60 gaming. I think a 9ms 120hz with VRR will be a big upgrade. The black levels and colors and HDR brightness will 100% from what I have.
I love sony processing I tried the S95B and it was so BAD in Youtube videos compared to an old Sony because X-reality creation upscaling and detail enhancement. The S95B looked like smear and blurry. Only good at 4K.

I won't have an OLED sitting next to my TV so any minute thing I am missing I won't even be aware of. The B9 will be the best image quality for me. It's not an OLED but as icing on the cake it does get closer than ever before. That is just a bonus. I don't expect any OLED out of it.

I don't want to go with QM851G even if I can save money. Because it will lack things I need. It's just not there yet as the Sony is. Hence I am willing to drop the cash. I am not going into debt doing it. I already have the money. I will keep it for many years until there is a new massive leap and maybe even Micro-LED or new tech has come out for consumers.

This TV needs to be reviewed showing it's abilities not being held as a "Why isn't it an OLED". That's the annoying part with some many testers and reviewers they treat it like it has to be an OLED. always dark room and always low nit content to enhance OLED black levels etc. It's disingenous at this point. Shoot it in a lit room and also use content it was designed for. But also some other content to show has it improved, is it even better with contrast than previous years etc. No one expects an OLED. At least not if you know anything about TVs.

[koolrunnings]

No matter the verdict, it's gonna be an 85" Bravia 9 in my Caribbean living room (use case - 10000 natural nits 5am - 6pm/sunny). So far, its pic quality is top and deep blacks are very good. ....Bun G4 (Brian's beast).

[petercarberry]

Brian and FOMO, please keep doing what you do. You're honest and real. And I trust you. Apologies for those who choose to criticize and cast you guys as "bait-switch" idiots.

[kev]

MiniLED in the living room. OLED in the bedroom.

[steveludwig]

43:49 - "If you think you want an OLED, go get go get one!!" And that's just what I did a week A80CL for $1699 at CostCo INCLUDING a 5 year warranty.

[jennifergala]

Thank you Brian and Fomo. Such a great discussion. I'm glad Fomo that my demo was helpful to your tests. I went the other day and filmed in 12bit REC2020 4000 nits and the video will be on my second channel with option to download in Dolby Vision next week. I love 4000 nits content. Is very demanding the Sony Bravia 8 does great but I didn't know about the other TVs that you mentioned. Thx again!

[Bklynblaze]

B9 is actually my preferred tv over anything else available at the moment. :)

[Carlos-vmoy]

Do you recommend a 4 year extended warrantee for the Bravia 9 ?

[kclaytree]

I finally saw the S95D at my local Bestbuy. Not a fan of the screen. In my opinion it pulls dimensionality out of the picture. Not an epic fail by Samsung, but they should have offered customers the choice of screen coating (matte or glossy) on their flagship...and should have put their best processor in the television. Samsung, Give us your best processor in your 2025 QD OLEDs...the leadership team made a substantial decisioning error by reserving the best processor for the 900D. It's embarrassing. I know Samsung engineers have to be frustrated being handcuffed by their leadership team. It's a shame.

[ElGrueso]

The moment I saw the title of the video I knew there will be bunch of Sony fanboys raging. Even Sony mentioned B9 wasn’t designed to beat A95L or OLED.

[allentissot]

Here's my bottom line, I'm getting the 85' B9 for three reasons. 1) zero worry of burn in 2) size 3) shadow detail. I've literally seen clips from an a95l where parts of an image are completely black. However on the B9 there is content there. Why would i pay 5000 for a tv that literally blacks out details. I know most people say colors are more saturated on oled, bit i think its more from the fact they are just darker and not accurate. You take an 85" B9 and put a soft d65 white ambient light behind it, and not only will you see zero blooming, but the contrast and colors will blow oled away

[mattk]

I love my Sony A95L and it's the best I think. Side by side their isn't anything major between them and picture quality depends on your settings your using.

[kclaytree]

Many LCD lovers have/had unrealistic expectations that the Bravia 9 would equal or exceed the best OLED format whether WRGB or QD OLED. The Bravia 9 was not designed to that. Rob from Sony never made that claim. Rob only said that the new Sony 3110 mastering monitor and Bravia 9 share a similar backlight system and the focus was bringing cinema home. That's it. There were no claims that the Bravia 9's picture would equal the mastering monitor or an OLED. The Bravia 9 can get overall higher picture luminance and brighter HDR, but it's still an LCD panel with the same deficiencies albeit much improved. Sony never deemed the Bravia 9 to be a masters series for a reason. Only Sony self emissive OLEDs will receive that designation. The Bravia 9 is a fantastic and formidable television, but it's core technology is its limiting factor when compared to a self emissive OLED. Let's also not forget that as OLED advancement continues it will reach higher peak brightness levels.

[mavknight]

Thanks Brian and FOMO for taking the time to bring us the best info possible. Forget about the trolls and malcontents. They are always around. The vast majority of us appreciate the hell out of you guys and I hope you know that. Keep on keeping on

[ChucklesMcChuckleson]

I want to make it clear that I am not critiquing FOMO or Brian here, but I am critiquing Sony.

The Bottom line is the Bravia 9 is marketing. I'm sure it's a good panel, but I'm also sure Sony makes more selling its own mini-LED tech then it will having to buy panels from LG. The expectation since Sony announced these panels was that the B9 would match or beat OLEDs. Further, if Sony really did say there would still be blooming, then it was in the fine print. I'm must respectfully disagree with your comments that Sony was always up front about the Bravia 9's capacities. They really were not, and the community is not a bunch of dunces. We were sold a narrative that the B9 was someting of a revolution - all the advantages of a mini-LED panel without the disadvantages. Precision control of dimming zones, virtually no blooming, 4000 nits. All the videos about these incredible lighting zones all but eliminating blooming - a narrative that was broadcast by every channel - turned out to be exactly that, marketing. What was meant by those videos that striped away all the colors and contrast and showed us the raw lighting zones and how much precision control the panel would have then? In the end, from what I've seen, there's still all the same blooming that you would expect on any LED panel.

Honestly, I strongly suspected that the B9 was all marketing and would not (and could not) be much of an improvement over the X95L, and that it certainly would not beat the A95L. My issue is that Sony is presenting this as its flagship model this year AND priced it accordingly. It's not better tech, it's just a better business deal for Sony. That's fine, but don't sell us like it isn't.

[vacguy]

Have had my 75" Bravia 9 now for a week and half and I can't get enough of it!!! It's a BEAUTIFUL television. The best looking TV I have owned, even better than every OLED I have had (yes including the A95L). It's so much brighter with punchy colors and contrast that's on par with an OLED. Yes, it's true, it's all true!! Get one and see for yourself!! I haven also not seen any evidence of blooming!

[cyrw]

Dont underestimate brightness and Sony processing. STILL loving my Z9G after all these years