You Lost Your Rappel Device: Now What!!??

[CodyBradford]

"Say Munter again! SAY. MUNTER. AGAIN!... I DARE YOU; I DOUBLE DARE YOU MOTHERF@$#^R; SAY "MUNTER" ONE MORE GOD D$#N TIME!"...

[BistrooJTP]

Miss you Cody. Thanks for everything you've given the community

[PaulSmith-fnwn]

I will keep that in mind for the next time I have trouble getting out of my recliner.

[georgeyoung]

Or just use ONE carabineer and make a simple HMS ;)

[teemukaikelsvitch]

Imagine some guy now stuck on the mountain trying to find this video 😂😂

[The_Farlander]

Very useful and something I'll have to remember if I ever take up climbing. My go-to method in situations like this currently is crying and throwing up

[justindunlap]

Munter hitch is always my go to emergency rappell method.

[brianrodman]

Munter hitch on an HMS clipped into the belay loop was my first thought. The extended ‘biner brake with the 3 lockers looks like a great alternative to that dropped device. Munter hitches can feel a bit fiddly when I havent used one for ages to rappel, while your method looked very intuitive and easy to control.

[tbcotten]

Oh man, popping back in to my feed in 2024. Cody you are missed

[johnjones]

Remember repelling in the Army with a rope tied harness, and a single carabiner.

[supernova]

For caving I always use a rack, bit keep a secondary descender on my side. Typically a figure 8. Great content as always! Love the work you do.

[normantonkin]

We used a similar method about 50 yrs ago in Britain. We call it "Abbing Off"
There was another method with pegs ( pitons) Always handy to have another method up your sleeve. All the best from GB.

[condyshares]

At Fairy Creek as we were working on the treesits, my friend had climbed up the tree with ascenders and didn't have a grigri, but an old device which we thought was to descend. It turned out that he couldn't go down with it, but fortunately I was spotting him on the ground and was able to go grab an atc and then tie it onto his rope for hin to pull up.

It made me realize that this scenario is very real and I actually didn't know what I would do if alone in that situation, other than to freehand fireman pole down the whole rope - so I'm glad to hear this advice inbyour video!

[MrJeverone]

Back in the day, Remember figure 8's? Reminds me of the same Idea.

[mrakl]

Thanks for this tip - I would automatically use the Munter Hitch... but it always helps to know more

[TaterChip]

"Someday you're going to find yourself without a rappel device.."
My day has come

[rebekah]

Hi Cody, any advice on how to safely bail mid- route? Thanks for all the insightful videos!

[markp]

Good video. Always nice to add more tools to my list of backups.

Have you seen the two carabiner method to replace an ascender/belay device for top roping. It's self locking.
I wish I knew the name.

Take a carabiner on your belay loop and put two HMS carabiners through it. If you're right handed, have the HMS gates on the left side. Pass the vertical rope through both HMS's, then loop the tail end back through the upper HMS and pass it under the load end, to the right side. Slide the loop to the top right of the HMS for better stability.

To take in slack, pull the tail forward. It self locks, but to lock tighter, go to normal right side belay position.
To give slack, move the tail to the left side, but be careful, if loaded in this position, it's hard to get back to the locked side.
Have used this to provide a sliding extension to a winch to pull a car when the cable was too narrow compared to the rope, for a prussic to work.

Safety issue:
It is easy to use incorrectly, so practise. It's advantage is really that it's self locking and doesn't put much wear on the rope, or put rope on rope opposed to most friction hitches.

[lofigaming]

me sitting at my computer. "i dont have one hes right!!!!" finishes making one then realizes there is nothing to climb its all just corn....

[grahamwheeler]

Why not a munter mule? Or even a prussik from a sling