HORN OF SALVATION Vs VASTO RAGE + Which Is Better!! Peroxide

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I love when Ichigo had to kill 50 arrancars after saving them from quincies and after that he went to time gates and killed 5 more innocent people after what he ended up in a parkour obby truly canon based obtainment

Sekai_Renn
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Whoever made the hos quest line should be sentenced completed 3 times with no help

agentkryptoninja
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Vastorage is better cuz it spares your sanity from going crazy.

ComicallyMath
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They should’ve just went for a mastered full hollow mode instead. Like how Ichigos full hollow mask is his true Vizard mask, they should have you go through moderately difficult progression so you can obtain your Vastorage mask and use it in tandem with Bankai.

JinxeBlaq
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Besides the absolutely shitty as hell obtainment method, V-Rage is not only x10 more clutch, but just overall x10 more powerful when it comes to PVP. Sure, Horn just gives you a heal in Bankai which can 'also' be considered a second life, but there might be times where you get comboed to death and end up dying without being able to pop horn. Meanwhile, so long as mask is on, you have a good safety net incase you somehow get 1 comboed without evasive.

There are also times where V-Rage can win you the game due to either outlasting an enemys 2nd mode, or just in general pushing targets out into zone in time gates or 1v1s, allowing you to snag free DMG. Plus, you also have the insanely stupid Block counter and holdable giant AOE cero that is basically unavoidable if you wait till the enemy runs out of flashsteps, and combine all of that, and you basically are better off with it than Horn.

Horn not only lacks the safety V-Rage provides, but has far less game winning potential compared to V-Rage. Horn won't save you from a 50% Starrk combo unless it's somehow untrue, but V-rage proc will.

Of course if we include obtainment, then yeah, V-Rage is ALSO better in that category. Who in the right fucking idea thought it was a good idea to make a obby that reset your entire quest while also letting it be able to be cheesable with Lightning? Doesn't help it had troll jumps before the nerf that LITERALLY made it impossible to beat on your first go, meaning before, you needed not only 2 hogs, but upwards of 100 kills just to fucking obtain horn, and that's IF you don't die to the obby again and have to restart all over, and knowing how the movement can be kind of whack sometimes, or lag, or literally any sort of factor, one misstep and you're fucked, and all of that for a worse V-Rage

TL;DR: V-Rage is just objectively better and isn't literal hell to get.

rioluwhojustwatchesthings
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To obtain HoS they should make you fight your vastorsge mind u the fight won’t be easy but not super difficult and when u win the fight u lose your vastorsge and get HoS I think that would be a lot better than all that quest

Aj-xofg
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horn of salvation is so op but, the farm is not worth it
it will take weeks if you play just a couple hours
i know it gives alot of buffs and is basically another bankai (because of the healing and the buffs) but vasto rage is 1000 TIMES EASIER and most of the time you will only see the difference if you are a tryhard player who cares about a 5% more buff (is not a 5%, its just an example)

Rayerito
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If I had to choose between HOS vs VRage with no obtainment restrictions, I’d choose V rage. Why? V rage just feels so good, man. The moves it gives deal so much damage, not to mention it has a counter that is unevasivable and deals 600 damage. People might choose HOS because you can use moves, but VRage just feels so smooth compared to just a second Bankai, that I have to go with V rage.

EnclaveSoldier-pwqc
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Horn of salvation is just vizard with 35% buffs

Kiro-fqjn
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Horn of salvation only lasts you bankais length so if you want the of horn then you need to wait a good bit and take a lot of damage which drains you banki bar so you can only use horn for a good min and a half if you want the heal

jaelendarsh
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I think it would be cool if, like we fight ywhach, get our zanpacto broken and then go to the royal palace talk to an oetsu NPC and get teleported to an asuichi finding mini game to get our true Bankai OR we can just get our sword fixed so we can use shikai and bankai again (side note before finding the oetsu NPC you're stuck with your base zanpacto and can't go into inner world) and fight the Ulquiorra time bubble. If you kill Ulquiorra and go into your inner world after your spirit will spawn with a hollow mask and will have jumped spam text with the options "(shikai name) what?" Starting a fight like the bankai fight for control over your hollow side which took control over your spirit

BokuWaDoctor_Chopper
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Id say the reason why the obtainment is this tedious is due to how having only 2 devs makes updates harder to push out and theyre waiting until more pure hog paths comes out then they'll nerf the quest for HOS

mao
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honestly i’d love to obtain horn of salvation cause it seems pretty solid for pvp and it’s cool to have a global pop animation, especially since vasto rage is pretty easy to counter if you know how to deal with it’s strengths and abuse it’s flaws (like it’s timer)

but horn’s obtainment is pretty obnoxious, resetting progress on death is incredibly stupid and putting an obby on a game with movement as jank as peroxide is silly work.

if peroxide devs want to make horn truly on par with vastorage, what they need to do is remove death regression on it’s questline and make it so horn refills a portion of your bankai meter. then it’d be viable to use and practical to obtain

banditodorito
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seeing ppl say vasto being easy now makes me remember i got vrage 1 week before hos released

Mate
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Crazy how bro said you were bad for ulting that soon tho he literally ulted a couple seconds ago💀

MEGA-wzkb
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Free revive is much better, you could be about to lose bankai but if you die your back to full in terms of mode and hp, the cero does BRICKS of damage and the aoe is huge, even though it cant use your actual moves, the stuff it gives you is more then enough

Luigi_AU
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To find the vastolorde, you can use the vastolorde bait (your vastolorde Will spawn)

aquilantm
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I feel like the devs saw everybody complaining about how long it took to get 2 hogyokus for rage and said, "You wanna complain? Here." Then they proceeded to make the worst quest ever made. It'd probably be easier to 100% Dark Souls than beat this without going insane.

wesleyward
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Hos requirements makes Vasto rage requirements look mad easy 😭

Natek
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Well, I want HoS and I'd be willing to grind another SR slot to S+ max Bankai max vizard, but I don't want to deal with that bullshit questline after I do everything else. So I think I'm happy with my maxxed out Vasto Rage slot.

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