Dr Idz is WRONG About Plant Toxins!

Dr Idz seems to think that just because he hasn't seen something, that it doesn't exist. This hubris can get you into trouble. You may have seen his video where he took a 30 second clip of a 2.5 hour video and tried to critique it without even watching the rest of the video to see the context. Unfortunately for @dr_idz he was utterly, and verifiably, wrong. He states that plants DON'T contain any carcinogens, and even if they did, they would LIKELY be hormetic (just a guess, no evidence provided). And of course, if they dont exist, then they are neither hormetic or anything else. Too bad for Dr Idz, it is a well documented fact that plants contain harmful toxins, some of which can be carcinogenic, according to the World Health Organization, UC Berkeley professor Bruce Ames, many books on Botany, and countless other sources. If they are hormetic though, he would have to show the following, which he doesnt do:

1. Which ones are hormetic?
2. At what dose are they hormetic?
3. What is the effect?
4. Are all the toxins hormetic?
5. As there can be hundreds of toxins in any given plant, are they all hormetic at same ratio in same plant?
6. How would you know?
7. How can you know the exact amount of each toxin in each plant in say a salad?

Dr Idz does not even attempt to provide any of this because he has no idea and was just making a wild accusation, which seems to be par for the course for him.

What's more, he references studies that claim eating more veggies is beneficial, but they only compare against processed food diets, not whole food meat based diets, so they are meaningless. And where are his references? Mine are below. For all studies always ask, "compared to what?" If they don't compare the two groups that you are looking at, the study isn't applicable to the conversation.

It takes a lot of knowledge to realize just how little we know and to have some humility about it, and unfortunately again, Dr Idz hasn't gotten that far in his studies.

"It doesn't matter how smart you are if you don't stop and think."
--Thomas Sowell

***UPDATE!***

Turns out Dr Idz is an ideologue (Idzdeologue?). He specialized in Lifestyle Medicine, which is part of a religious movement led by the Seventh Day Adventist Church to get rid of meat from the diet, as they have been religiously anti meat since the 1800s. They even founded Kellog's cereals and Sanitarium foods to push this agenda. He's ideologically, not scientifically, driven, whether he realizes it or not. Look into it yourself: he is a self-proclaimed Lifestyle Medicine specialist. Lifestyle medicine is founded and run by the Seventh Day Adventist Church out of their medical school Loma Linda and was originally called the Christian Association of Lifestyle Medicine. They set the curriculum and write the exams; this is just a front for their religious agenda. They also have huge ties to the processed food giants like Coca-Cola, Nestle, Sanitarium, and of course Kellog's.

Natural pesticides and carcinogens in vegetables

Science (244:755-7, May 19,1989)

Natural toxins in vegetables and beans

The International Journal of Poisonous Plant Research

Professor of Botany and Biology in Texas: Plant food toxins

Professor of Botany at University of Cambridge on Plant Defenses and Toxins, 2011

Plants are trying to kill you

Lectins, obesity through autoimmune Dr Paul Mason

Studies of Nutrition: The Physique and Health of Two African Tribes (whole foods plant based vs whole food animal based)

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[JackieKay]

Evidenced by so many ex vegans/vegetarians in all the comments sections, who became sick and got their health back on carnivore 🤷‍♀️Thanks Dr Chaffee 👍💪

[dimitriradoux]

Finally someone who does a reaction correctly! Not pausing every five seconds and actually first letting the whole point be expressed and then breaking it down! Everyone should do it this way IMHO!

[mnsandra]

My mom is 70 yo, she never felt healthy and good all her life, she is on strict carnivore for 4 months and so much energy.
My husband had acute pancreatitis and hospitalized for almost 2 mo last year, we followed the dietitian diet and 6 MO later the inflammation didn’t even move, changed for a carnivore and the 300ml cyst in his pancreas becomes a small cyst … real life real testimony… Carnivore for life, thanks Dr. Chaffee ❤

[codinginflow]

Dr. Chaffee thank you for ruining vegetables for me 😆

[davidwhite]

I’m new to carnivore and have spent weeks researching and learning the truth about meat.
I’m not full carnivore yet, but getting there.
What I’ve learned so far is astonishing.
We’ve been lied to all these years…

[Izzy-tuoq]

Just looking at the 2 of you…You are strong and healthy. He looks…much less strong and healthy.

[infini_ryu]

It's funny he says they have a hormetic effect yet claims they are not toxic. Does he even understand what hormesis is? Hormesis would imply they were harmful. How does he know the toxins he's consuming are acting hormetically rather than harmfully? He hasn't quantified hormetic levels.

[TheDoringeo]

Not anyone who hangs a stethoscope around the neck can go in the ring with Dr.Anthony Chaffee, he knows his stuff....💪😃

[zaziedabeast]

I used to follow vegan and at one point a vegetarian diet... I felt like I was becoming brittle all of the time, and just two months ago, I started carnivore, and I'm feeling like a freaking beast again. No tired and wobbly legs. I don't feel like I was in a car crash when I wake up. The funny thing is I felt so bad, yet I would preach to others about eating vegan to feel better when I myself didn't feel better.

[onecarnivore]

"The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." -George Orwell. Dr. Chaffee, the more flak you get, the closer you are to the target. Great work.

[lyarrastark]

I have always been aware that certain plants are toxic, for instance, nightshades. And somehow I was always reluctant to go vegetarian. Never even considered veganism. But one of your videos, Dr. Chaffee, opened my eyes to the fact that ALL plants have some kind of chemical defense. That was more than a year ago, and it was the kick I needed to go from keto to carnivore. That was one of the best decisions I've ever made. Thank you, Dr. Chaffee, for spreading this valuable information.

[gazlives]

lol he has a stethoscope around his neck to imply authority. i just can't...🤣

[justinellis]

I hope Dr. Chaffee makes other videos like this. Responding to people who are so confidently incorrect. I admit when I first heard him say plants were trying to kill you, I thought he was crazy till I tried carnivore myself. Thanks Dr. Chaffee for doing what you do!!

[lisagalloway]

I was vegan. Then, I started suffering from oxalate issues! I didn't even know what oxalates were! Plants are toxic! So thankful I found you and the other carnivores! Autoimmune issues that I'd been suffering from for years are now gone. I'm 60 lbs lighter and feel like a million bucks! Meat, eggs, and limited dairy is the proper human diet!!

[John-Accardi]

4 months ago I started on the carnivore diet after watch Dr Anthony's video 'Plants are trying to kill you!', I've never felt better and currently dropping 3kg per month and 18kg to ideal weight.
The only change I've made from five years on keto to now carnivore was ditching plants but the benefits keep amazing me every month seams to get better! The title 'Plants are trying to kill you!' got my attention, thanks Doc from Brisbane.

[Milkywaymike]

Another favorite quote of mine from Thomas Sowell is - "It doesn't matter how smart you are unless you stop and think"

[survivaloptions]

Personal anecdote. On Wednesday morning, after 3 months of strict carnivore, weiged 301.4 lbs (down from 330). For our anniversary the wife and I went to a Disney resort. Gave myself permission to eat whatever I wanted. After 36 hours of eating carbs (a little sugar, but primarily wheat, corn & vegetable products) I weigh 312.2 lbs. Every joint and muscle group in my body hurts. The inflammation is real. It's gonna take a week to get rid of this water. So yeah, plant products have been fantastic for me.

[OhioGalReads]

Dr. Chaffee is channeling his inner Bart Kay. Well done!😀

[glendas]

Thank you so much for all the information -TRUTH- you are getting out. Since at a very young age I have ALWAYS wanted to eat only the meat off my plate and nothing else. I should’ve stayed with my smart human instincts. So glad I have awakened at the age of 53!

[johnsavage]

Been a Carnivore for 12 months plant and fruit free, never felt better. This guy can have my spouts