Did NIETZSCHE Predict The DEATH of CULTURE?! (WOKE Smoothie) | Philosophy

[ThoughtsonThinking]

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[MCE]

'Industrial Society and Its Future' answers the woke question and its purpose. Hint: its nothing good.

[nicolasdufour]

As Jung once said: "People don't have ideas. Ideas have people" it may not be accurate but you get the point. I hope it won't get too far...

[adohmnail]

He did. He saw the small hats in Europe and the spread of bolshevism/communism. That is where the hatred started and still is.

[thatinfinite]

I've been told by a loved one to live in the woke lifestyle, like open relationships, because "everyone else is okay with it". 💀wtf, who are these robots. Its degenerative and disgusting

[TheJackal]

From what Nietzsche's work this quote comes? My problem is that, although I try not to miss any of your videos, English is not mother tongue. And I read in different language as reading philosophy in English would be akin to self-torture. Maybe not that extreme, but still around that. Thanks for yet another video, btw.

[rhobot]

Yes!! ENCORE, woke smoothie!! :)) SPeaking of disgusting messes that you don't know what you're drinking, you are reminding me so vividly shocking and disppointing, is a melted sandwich of chocolate and onion. I was wilderness hiking in southern Utah once upon a time, and at camp in the morning we all put our sandwhiches and snacks etc and hours later in the heat, I open up my pack, and my chocolate has melted all into my sandwich of some kind of meat and whatever they provided, and onions because I love onions, and chocolate. hahaha! You'd think, Oh I can eat that. Wouldn't you? No. hahah! Anyway, BRAVO notion you've come onto here.

[lacanian]

wait, are you asking if Nietzsche predicted rainbow capitalism? I'm basing myself off the thumbnail

[rhobot]

Shared on my public Facebook, ie to nowhere. lol

[elementaesthetique]

Does Nietzsche use Race interchangeably with Ethnicity? I'm confused by that quote

[owlOFTHEgods]

The changes we witness in our tims is that a formerly collectivist culture becomes individualized. The reason people get confused when collectivist culture desintegratess is that they are addicted to ideas to guide them, and not their senses. Ideas are developed by the collective, to keep the individual in check, and injected to the individual. To me Nietzsche is a culture destroyer. Because what he believes in is materialism. Woke is an extension of christianity. But lgbtq is about individualsm, not about woke. Woke can include lgbtq rights, but lgbtq can be non- woke.

[spencedelic]

Nietzsche was the precursor to Foucault

[geraintwilliams]

Think you've confused postmodernism with wokeness. Postmodernism is not anti science or anti rational thought. It's pointing out the fact that all science is a leap of faith to some degree. Yes science is the best we've got and in general helps to advance our society. However we should always be open minded enough to accept new possibilities and logically challenge indoctrination and biases. Postmodernism is incorrectly defined and misunderstood by many.

[thedonut]

This channel continues to have some of the most shallow, idiotic interpretations of philosophy I’ve ever seen (especially when it comes to Nietzsche).

Can you please talk in some specific terms? You’ve built this grand enemy of “woke culture” because it probably sounds like less of an existential threat to say “people being mean on Twitter” but what is “wokeness”, what are the ways it “collectives diversity” in concrete terms and why do you disagree with it?

Also, I sincerely doubt Nietzsche would’ve wanted some return to our “roots” or “cultures” and would’ve hated to see his work (yet again) used for vapid political dunks.

[XIIIthSpirit]

Mass confusion. Ignorance is a chaos in its itself. Thus, knowledge being power. Wisdom to know you are it. But many do not know they are it. It's funny. Have you ever seen the painting "The Creation of Adam" by Michelangelo? Do you understand what it truly means..?
Man pointing outwards at what the believe to be "God" (to say there is a "God", which is always subject to each and everyones own self interpretation), and this conceptualized "God" ( supposedly representing the Universe outside ones self); points back at you. Because "God" will always point back to you, to say YOU are "God".
The distortion of truth is that Man is finding "God" to be something other than himself. Thus, will be acting as a lesser. As above; So below. E pluribus unum.
You aren't "One of Many" if you understand this message.

[yqafree]

Awesome video! Great show more notes! Best thumbnail! ".. you got a bit of fish in there! You don't what you're drinking." 10/10

[bobcabot]

...very very true! ( didnt he write about his diciples?...

[guapocat]

I don’t disagree entirely - I share the perspective that woke thinking in practice can be reductive to the point of meaninglessness. Even dogmatic. But unless I’m mistaken, critiquing woke thinking carries an implicit preference for the narratives, values, and beliefs of some other culture — and that often goes entirely unsaid. In my own life, I’ve pushed back on the term LatinX in academia (as opposed to term Latino/a) because I am blunt that I prefer the cultural framework I grew up in as more authentic.

Which kind of brings up an interesting point you touched on - the corporate use of wokeness. From my humble perspective, it looks like grassroots social justice advocates designed and intended wokeness to be a check on corporate and institutional power - the idea being that if they get institutions to drop dominant culture ideas, there will be more opportunity to create more equatable narratives and values in their absence.

I suspect what has actually happened is that corporate power and institutions use wokeness - knowingly and unknowingly - in profoundly tribalistic ways to signal their own in-group status, cohesion, and sense of heroism and purpose. It sells itself as transformative, but I would argue that corporatized wokeness actively pushes back against structural change unless change is advocated neatly in increments over time.

[atlasupholderoftheheavens]

This felt more like a rant than a Nietzsche analysis. Though, I see where you're coming from, I have to politely disagree (with some parts).
"Wokeness" isn't devoid of meaning. Being "woke" means to go against the societal norms/values of the past in the name of atoning for past sins. There is a constructive and a destructive way of digesting the "woke smoothie." The constructive route recognizes that atrocities were committed in the past (genocide, warfare, racism, homophobia etc.) but we can rise above it by helping those impacted by the past and recognize the humanity of all individuals, including the descendants of the perpetrators of these evils. Destructive "wokeness" means weaponizing (you used the example of weaponizing emotions) to oppress competition and even those who subscribe to this ideology by putting them into two categories "oppressed and oppressor" or "victim and guilty." This gross oversimplification is diabolical and ironically undermines the individuals (and groups) the ideology claims to enable.
Buuuut...claiming the worst of the drinkers and manufactures of this "woke smoothie" only assumes malicious intent which dehumanizes the people behind this ideology. The principal of charity applies here. While being "woke" is the cultural wave of the day, it can be (and has been) weaponized by various groups to achieve various ends. All I'm saying is not all of these ends are necessary evil.
However, this response doesn't answer the following burning question: "Is there a death of (the) culture?" Technically, yes, the smoothie is designed to flush out the undesirable toxins that ravaged the body (society). The old cells in the body will perish and be replaced by regenerated ones. So yes, the culture of the past mostly dead. But the real question is: Does that make it a bad thing? You could argue yes, but it depends on what criteria you constitute as "bad."
I'm not saying that being "woke is the answer." It's blended questions galore! After all, the body that is society can't go on a strict smoothie diet forever without malfunctioning. But being "woke" is part of the answer, an appetizer if you will for the main course to come.

[jeffryschmidt]

you could've done better on that lovely big rainbow analogy