SUV off-road challenge: Toyota v Subaru

[rmonlv]

Subaru AWD system is like land cruiser 100 series, with center dif lock without A-trac. Rav4 don't have shit but a simple AWD.

[charlier]

99% of rav4 and foresters will never do this, but my money is on Toyota's engine and transmission solid built.

[yagooatthegoat]

Ofc its the forester, subaru takes pride in their engineering and awd

[chad]

As a long term Toyota owner, I think we all know Subaru's AWD system is better than Toyotas. But that's not why we buy Toyotas. We buy them because you can put 400-600k km on one and it will still run like new.

Besides, crossovers aren't meant to be serious off-road vehicles -- they're meant to get you to your campsite and handle on-road snow, which they both do just fine. So let's not pretend anyone is taking either of these cars on the Rubicon trail.

[DLca]

Driver ability is questionable in log climb...hes doing burnouts.

[Rolling]

Honestly they are both really meant for people who wear Birkenstock’s

[straydog]

Idk how is that surprising, Subarus AWD is Goated

[slysun]

Subarus AWD is just incredible. I have a 2021 crosstreck limited. I’ve had water over the hood of the car and it still trucked through zero issues.

[SkidzFPV]

Nothing beats Subaru’s symmetrical all wheel drive. I just got a crosstrek, took it to the top of Burroughs mountain and granted it’s not a hard core jeep trail but it’s still pretty rough and the Subaru just didn’t care. Was completely comfortable climbing and going over rocks and roads with deep ruts, just had to pick my line and the car does the rest.

[gregd]

I watched the original video months ago. If I recall correctly, the RAV4 actually completed all of the tasks about as well as the Forrester. I think they just had to changed a terrain setting on the RAV4.

[oppanheimer]

Test should be conducted with identical set of tyres.

[valvemark]

This is good consumer testing! The tests simulate trips to the whole foods.

[ferratilis]

Let's see which one can eat 1 quart of oil every 1000 miles.
Winner is Subaru.

[joshzhu]

The Hybrid AWD RAV4 has an extremely long waiting period and its price keeps rising, almost $10, 000 higher than the Forester. How many years do I need to drive a hybrid to save this $10, 000 in fuel costs?

[pjkr]

Fun fact: RAV4 was build under D-Segment platform, while Forester was under C-Segment platform. From the chassis itself, Forester already killed many upper class Crossovers than itself.

[brarautorepairs]

You can see the FWD bias during the log climb which makes it extremely difficult for the front tires to grip. I can see how Suburu has been always using a better AWD system than the RAV4. This RAV4 is definitely an improvement over the last generation with more electronic off road features but it is very heavily reliant on the brakes to transfer torque from a slipping wheel to wheel with traction.

[wvsggzh]

For anyone who wants the truth about the systems and how they perform, go watch Driving Sports TV. He rigorously tests both these vehicles as well as the Outback. In the end, both Subarus do have a better AWD system stock from the factory than the RAV4, but the RAV4 is still a good system.

Suburu has been AWD in almost all its vehicles since the early 90’s; they’re better at it.

Also the tires in these cars off the lot are very similar, so weak argument there.

[octurbojoe]

There sure is a lot of pissed off RAV4 fans here. 😂

[kulaak-krii]

Ever heard of airing down? Just sitting there doing a burnout is ridiculous.

[RussorMallika]

Toyota is respectable in its ability to get you to and from somewhere and it does so reliably. A Subaru is also just as reliable, but Subaru can do just about everything a Toyota can’t, it handles snows, rough rugged terrain, ice, and honestly a lot of other things.