DEBATE Jay Dyer Vs Jake Muslim Metaphysician | Trinity Vs Tawhid

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[ahmedozturk]

I was a Muslim, , that became Orthodox Christian a couple years ago because of Jay Dyer, so it was nice to see him debate Islam again.

[sugami]

Jake lostAt the start when he basically said "Your God doesn't make sense to me therefore He must be 3 gods and not 1." Typical Dawah, can't actually attack Christian theology so has to build strawmen and attack those instead.

[laughingbeans]

Muslim: Islam is for the whole world.

Also Muslim: you have to know these Arabic terms or you don’t know anything about Islam and no I won’t explain it to you.

[Jeem]

I maintain that Jay Dyer won the debate. Jake ridiculed Jay's usage of Universals, while hypocritically making Aristotle the seal of the prophets of his own religion--I also do not think he answered my polemic about the Quranic mimicry of Plotinus' Enneads, since it still copies the philosopher's noticeable titles for god, even if Muslims do not hold to Absolute Divine Simplicity.

[orthochristos]

Come on guys, let's be real. This was not a debate. It was a guy (Jay) teaching a cantankerous kid (Jake) about metaphysics.

[IndonesianOrthodox]

Excellent Debate. I'll be sharing this video around!

[FreshPelmeni]

Jake’s cross-examination was slimy as hell. He equivocates on the meaning of universal and when called out on it just slides over it and pretends he’s in the right.

[luisspfc]

I wonder what got the Muslim guy so mad. Anyways, Christian guy’s presentation was much better.

[gto]

Jay using Allah's foot to crush Jake was the highlight of the debate.

[danielalvarez]

Jake the angry metamuslim takes another L

[JRizk]

Jake: The text (Quran) is not created. The paper and ink are.

Jay: You mean the eternal Quran.

Jake: I dont believe in an eternal Quran.

If the Quran is uncreated, how then is it not eternal?

Jake: We don't believe Allah has body parts.

Jay: You believe he has a foot?

Jake: We believe he has a foot and hands, yes.

Jay, you didn't have to hurt him that bad.

[kasiosseijuro]

Jay Dyer defending the Holy Orthodox faith and the one True Triune God yet again.

[moose]

Jay dyer definitely won this debate. Jake kept getting mad and did not want Jay to answer the questions. Jake expected Jay to understand these arabic terms by then saying that he took the time to learn hebrew terms when it’s not obligatory to say it in hebrew meanwhile you have to use arabic terms in Islam. Furthermore Jake doesn’t understand that a word does not just have one meaning .

[TheOtherCaleb]

I’m 3 minutes in and “the metaphysician” has already egregiously strawmanned trinitarian theology.

[Giant_Meteor]

According to Jake, each of Allah's many attributes is not counted as being _divisions_ of the One, but as eternally existing divine _identities_ .
Why then pretend to have a problem with Trinitarianism having three identities? How many identities does Allah have as attributes?

[epicnear]

Jay Dyer won this debate, Jake came out very childish

[pelomocho]

jake in all his debates? pretend like he doesnt understand the questions to kill time

[jesussavedme]

Another big fail for islam. Jay destroyed Jake beyond recognition.

[panperl]

Notice how most of the muslim responses in the comments come from newly created accounts without a profile picture.