Trope Talk: Queer Coded Villains

Oh boy, I bet this one'll have a very civil comment section!
Who's your favorite queer-coded villain? And expert mode, do you like them BECAUSE of how they're written, or in SPITE of it?

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[Klokinator]

Jim: "This homosexual is committing an act of public indecency!"
Bob: "By jove! That madman! Under what circumstances did you stumble upon his foul, heinous acts of public sexuality?"
Jim: "Well you see, me and five other guys followed him around and spied on him for half a year until we managed to witness him quietly pulling another man into his sleeping quarters."
Bob: "..."
Jim: "What? We caught that homosexual red-handed!"
Bob: "I don't think you know what 'public' indecency means."

[archetypicallyjack]

Who'd have guessed that making a confident character that people could see themselves in would make fans and creators enjoy said character.

[David_Fellner]

"Well, nobody's perfect, " is one of the most hilarious (and maybe accidentally progressive) lines I've ever heard.

[Winnangh]

I always wondered what "natural law" meant, and after pursuing a history degree I found out that it basically means whatever the hell the speaker wants it to mean.

[sagec-r]

The ace robot thing is such a mood, like is it the best rep? No. Can the existing characters be pried out of my cold dead hands by this point? Also no

[tagon]

“While being queer is inherent, being an asshole is selective” is a very good quote. I like that one.

[pedroian]

Fun fact:


In the brazilian Dub of the Lion King, whilst Scar is getting jumped on by the Hyenas, he says "Eu não DISSE Aquilo! (I didn't SAY that)", but the audio got mixed HORRIBLY, and with the music, sound effects of the fire, the Hyenas laughing, the fact that he said nothing whilst he was getting attacked and the emphasis on "Disse A-(Say Tha-)" made people hear various different things

Some people heard "EU NÃO FIZ CHAPINHA(I DIDN'T STRAIGHTEN MY HAIR)"

While some others heard "EU SOU BICHA(I'M GAY)"

Obviously, nobody would genuinely believe that this was a written line, by Disney or the dubbing team. But it became sort of a meme, because the first few times you watch it, there's goddamn fire cracking sound effects that completely muffle the line, so a lot of people have a hard time hearing it (Including a crazy pastor who went on a Rant about why Disney is unholy)

So in some people's memories, Scar's last words were him coming out

[johnfoster]

I find it odd that things like the Hayes' Code seem to suggest that gay sex is so pleasurable that even hearing about it will turn all the "good" boys and girls into debauched hedonists.

[miramorrigan]

"God, calling someone out for 'public indecency' when you had to hire a team of private detectives to find them out would be so funny if it hadn't ruined so many lives."

Oh yeah, absolutely.

[EHyde-irgb]

"I don't mind that they're terrible, I just don't want them terrible around me."

I see what you did there. Nice.

[bismyth_]

“You’ve been asked many times if your bi but you never actually answered”
“Yes I have, I said I am bi”
“And once again, you haven’t answered”

[daviddaugherty]

About Disney villains, I feel Frollo should be pointed out as being very much the opposite. If anything, he represents society's repression by kicking it into overdrive. His perfectly heterosexual attraction to Esmerelda scares him because of the slightest impropriety of it.

It's literally what his villain song is all about.

[BrazenBard]

...Now I have a stronger urge than ever to write a D&D module where one of the villain's top lieutenants is gossiped about and vilified for "unnatural traits", "unrighteous behaviors", and pretty much all the "usual" phrases... and when the party finally encounters the guy, he's left-handed. Just left-handed. :P

[adeleaslan]

“Achilles and his *friend* Patroclus”
“Sappho and her gal pal” it hurts me. It really hurts

[ForeverFallingCrescent]

'Once again the power of clean living and racial purity saves the day'
'Hisss'
'Just kiss already'
Never change, Red.

[chiaragovernatori]

and lets not forget the unfeeling villain who is evil because they “don’t feel or understand love”, because as we all know if you don’t want a partner then you are automatically voldemort

[thaneofstuff]

Just the Hades line "He's a guy" when Meg is talking about how she thinks Hercules is a good guy. That sent me more than anything.

[grfrjiglstan]

Funny how this particular trope has aided the development of another: generic, white-bread heroes and super interesting villains.

[ianmcpherson]

The sheer amount of cultural context being condensed into a coherent narrative here is so fucking impressive...

[zipwad]

Instead of me fearing the queer coded villain from the Lion King when I was seven, I asked my dad if I could change my name to Scar.