Jordan Peterson’s Nonsense Views on Gay Conversion Therapy

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Jordan Peterson contradicts himself on gay conversion therapy. Here’s why.

Jordan Peterson is a clinical psychologist who knows from his training that being LGBTQ is not a pathology or disease, and that conversion therapy doesn’t work. Still, he speaks against Bill C-4 which bans conversion therapy in Canada, claiming it mandates “affirmation therapy.” Just like when he spoke against Bill C-16, Peterson misunderstands the bill he is criticizing.

This time, though, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, the Daily Wire, and The Heritage Foundation likely have something to do with that.

Thanks for Dr. Igi Moon for appearing in this video!

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"I am aware that this mental health treatment is not only ineffective but actively dangerous to the patients on its receiving end, but I think people should be allowed to practice it anyway." Well that is certainly one of the stances of all time.

FunnyFany
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"I know i cant change you but i want it to be legal for me to try anyways" is all i got from this

BreadBush
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>"protect the children"
>proceeds to abuse said children

LaussseTheCat
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I dont get Peterson's perspective at all. If we're not supposed to compel people to believe think or act in a certain way then why should LGBTQ people be compelled to act in a way that forces us to not be LGBTQ? Why defend that at all? It just seems hypocritical given his previous stances as a "champion of free speech" whatever the hell that means.

quantumslime
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i still find it amazing that Jordan Peterson's entire rise to fame can be traced to back to that single lie he told in 2016.

MadDunhill
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Drew I really wish you'd give a warning before inflicting Matt Walsh on us.

Colddirector
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His lies about the outcomes of laws never cease to amaze me. Just like 7 years later not a single person has been charged for misgendering, now he lies about conversion therapy.

markevans
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Peterson invented word salad. His sentences are long, complex, and change direction usually midway through anything he's pretending to say. If you can nail him down to a single thought or point you are a better listener than I ever was.

alg
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"Of course to a degree it IS about religious liberty, they just outlawed Judaism, Christianity and Islam."

I have no idea who the guy who said that is, but that has got to be one of THE takes of all time.

tehbertl
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"Compelled speech is bad, unless it is reporting a child's sexuality and gender identity to a parent. Then is should be illegal not to."

DahVoozel
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“Well you can’t ban conversion therapy because then you’ll start banning other kinds of therapy, and I base that assumption on absolutely nothing”

k.g.
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Conversion therapy is built on the idea of _conversion, _ in case that wasn't obvious. Many protestants view homosexual *_attractions_* (not merely actions) as a sign of an unconverted state. What this means is that conversion therapy oftentimes operates by subtly telling clients that if they aren't yet straight then they haven't yet given their lives to Christ, in other words that they're _damned._

It's one thing to advise someone to practice a lifetime of abstinence. This tends to be the expectation Catholicism puts on gay people. That's not easy, but at least it's achievable. Telling them or insinuating that they need to _change their sexual orientation_ or else face the worst imaginable fate is a whole nother level of psychological torture!

somexp
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We've also banned icepick lobotomies, Kermit. Does that "limit the ability" of psychiatrists to do their job?

foolishlyludicrous
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Peterson’s popularity can largely be attributed to so many people mistaking pretentiousness for intelligence.

JamesCarter
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Jordan Peterson is a straight-up Bond villain now. Not even trying to hide behind his mask of intellectualism anymore.

Downhuman
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If a person gets my pronouns wrong because we just met, it's chill, but to know and continually go out of your way to say the wrong thing is just disrespectful. "I can get fired for how I treat my coworkers?"

MoonDoeProductions
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The fact that anyone even thinks conversion therapy works, let alone supports is just really sad.

Ty-wfmg
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damn, i can't believe we got an actual "the west has fallen" out of them
you can't parody people who keep one-upping the parody

Ana_Ng
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If someone comes to a therapist saying, "I think I'm gay, but I'm worried that it's because of x reason", and the therapist works with them to find out if that's true, that isn't conversion therapy. Conversion therapy is when you take someone who is gay and try to convince them that they're not. If your motivation is to find the truth about your client's identity. regardless of what that truth is, then it isn't conversion and you won't be prosecuted. Peterson has to know this. He'd have to be practically brain dead not to know this. He just likes being a contrarian because he needs to keep on the opposite side of modern ideas at all times to keep his target audience nodding along to his bullshit intellectualism.

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At this point, it's easier to assume that when JP opens his mouth, he's lying.

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