Apple Doesn’t Care About “Gaming”

Thoughts on Apple and gaming with the M1 Pro / Max chips.

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[DaveD]

It's sad but I don't think Apple will ever care about gaming. It doesn't matter how powerful their hardware gets.

[samueltung]

As a game dev, the points you brought up are 100% aligns with what reality is. Great content you put out here.

[danfazylov]

In addition to your thoughts about the lack of financial interest, I suppose that Apple wants to keep its brand as a premium product for the middle and higher end classes, but not as a sophisticated, heavy and noisy product for gamers and geeks.

[playerprime]

It's also important to keep in mind that the stereotypical "PC Gamer" wants to replace parts and upgrade his/her rig every so often. Apple is the anti hardware-enthusiast brand.

[demme]

Excellent analysis.
After years of waiting and hoping to see powerful mobile GPUs on MacBooks +AAA games on MacOS I decided last year to build a dedicated gaming rig which costed me less than a ssd+ram MacBook upgrade and it makes so much sense. I now have a MacBook Pro for work, and a cheap, upgradeable rig for games…wish I did that a long time ago.

[tylertypewriter]

The aesthetic of the underground lair coming along nicely 💯

[royliuhm]

I think you have it spot on. Mobile gaming is too lucrative for it's unregulated gambling aspects to even bother with the actual art of a good game. And just like you said, they are already leaders in this, why even bother to spend the immense amount of resources to make AAA games a reality for a user base who only knows mobile trash.

[NNNedlog]

Dave, your videos are always so insightful and exciting to watch

[Mohamed-hvzo]

Props to you for talking about this topic. It would’ve been awesome if we could game on a MacBook.

[EricZucchini]

I've always felt like Apple and Nintendo are such similar companies. Not exactly in the business model, but in the philosophy with which they carry out their things. I've always felt like they could do something together. But then I remember they never will, precisely because they're Apple and Nintendo.

[lacshy]

I know some people who have avoided buying a Mac just because the game options are very limited despite they are in the Apple ecosystem. One of my friends have a windows pc just for gaming, and she prefers her Macbook for everything else. A lot of people are installing windows as a secondary os on their intel Macs just for games. I guess it would bring in a lot of new Mac purchases for Apple if they decided to make gaming possible natively.

[avicohenk]

Same for CAD. Although a lot of cad developers are releasing mac versions Of their software they are always far more buggy and less supported on mac compared to windows. Its probably do to difficulty porting and running on mac while not making enough to invest a lot of development time into it.
For some reason, graphics and video editing is a main focus for them, even though gaming and CAD are on similar level in terms of performance power for professionals.. I wonder why that is. Why that is what they choose to focus on for the professional user.

[martinmtonga]

When I want to catch up on laptops it's always D2D. Keep the cool vibe man. Love your stuff.

[terribletimes]

They either concede and add Vulkan support back in or they give devs an incentive to develop for Metal. There will never be a good gaming experience on Macs otherwise

[cinderyghost]

Bro I love your videos man they’re so informative and short

[davidodell]

Your perspective is spot on. I don’t spend time thinking about these things; it’s nice to hear you articulate it well while being succinct.

[crlea]

Feel like also companies don't care about users with Mac, all my setup is based on gaming products like razer, logitech, most of their software which is pretty much essential don't work on Mac. I have recently bought an M1 Apple Sillicon and I can't have a nice experience with my current setup

[wesleytenacity_]

This is why I am subbed in this channel. His insights and knowledge about the tech world is just unparalleled. May it be the technical side or the business side, Dave is just phenomenal. He clearly knows what he says. Keep it up Dave. Eventually more people will sub on your channel. :)

[danstoian]

0:56 Agreed! Just look at their decisions. Deprecating OpenGL, not officially adopting or helping out with Vulkan (and no MolenVK doesn't count, just a wrapper for Metal calls). And even Metal itself, from I've heard, documentation is lacking in that area. Apple, at it's revenue, if it wanted, could have easily talk to both Valve and other devs to quickly port some 3A games, just to make a statement "Hey guys, expect from us gaming in the next years, this is just the begging" at any of their WWDDC, but nothing.
To argue otherwise just seems wishful thinking.
And don't even get started with that Apple Arcade stuff.

[harsha]

I remember “Infinity Blade” with every new iPhone launch, it was integral part to show how good it was on their platform. I hope they do the same for their laptops, then they might attract devs and gamers on it.

Correction: "Infinity Blade" not "Infinity Sword"
Also the lore of the game was short but was so good.