How to WIDEN your bass sounds the RIGHT way! #ableton #underbelly #sounddesign

[rtyprty]

i remember when i was 15 and widened EVERYTHING and then wondered why it sounded good on some speakers and shitty on others😂

[futur_sunds]

This guys the best he promos his track whilst spreading super good info all at once. What a legend.

[NunButIce]

Definitely can’t be having zero booty bass in the clubs man that’s a party foul

[tonogram]

One trick I do to be a bit more surgical than can be done with an EQ is to use the wavetable editor to remove the fundamental (or more) from one oscillator, then remove everything else from another oscillator, and only apply any kind of widening to the former. That way I have precise control over which harmonics stay perfectly mono.

[countedgnome]

Shot up overnight is a banger. Love the song, and the peoduction is so damn clean.

[sio-salt]

There is a way to widen your sub without phase problem! Dimension expander effect in serum can do that.
You can also pan your sub with pitch synced sine wave loaded in noise oscillator.

[ghostsinthesnow_makes_music]

this is SUCH good advice and explains so much

[coursecontrol]

Yes! So many presets come ultra wide to make them sound exciting. The mono sine wave sub signal layer is key 🔑

[LukePetruzzi]

I’ve been loving Shot Up Overnight - feels nostalgic but also new

[RCX_Sco]

Lil side EQ on the master cutting up to around 100/150hz (listen for best results, some genres might be lower or higher) helps keep things in mono without too much hassle

[muunhead]

Omg thanks so helpful!
Wait,
1. What is widening and what does it do?
2. What is "the low end"?
3. If one channel happens before the other, wouldn't it mean the whole bass would sound off beat because one sound wave will play before it's supposed to? How is that not the primary concern, even if it's on a stereo speaker?
4. What's a "SUB"?
5. What's a "vital" preset?
6. What's a sine wave and how is it different from a normal sound wave?
7. What's an oscillator?
💀

[Drekon]

This is actually really well explained

[TacticsUnseen]

Lower frequencies have less “coverage” since we hear exponentially. So the changes to phase down there will be very noticeable.

[Firebird]

I've never used a stereo widener because I've never found one that didn't sound like ass. If I feel compelled to apply widening it's usually a sign to me that I need to go back to the drawing board and start a patch from scratch or eq other parts of the mix more.

[tylerwiltse]

underbelly has goated tips. in alot of ways he helped me achieve my bounce and swing that i have now.

[StingerBeats]

Ozone imager is also great for this as you can selectively widen certain frequency ranges

[JohnPaulBuce]

oh yeah playing my tracks in mono sounds like something got muted, so this is why

[tonymens]

This sounds like a battle sequence from fear and hunger

[NikolayBas]

Much easier and healthier for mix (I think) will be do it on a master bus in eq - you just loCut side and after that search for point where it will sound the best for mix. For example, in rock mix bass can be in stereo much lower (even to 90 hertz but mostly not lower 100) when in electronic music you need more consistent low end, so it can be 130-150 hertz. But do it only with ears, sometimes there’s no any problem with phase even when your bass in stereo)) Art! Music!

[niveous]

Wowzers. I cannot believe this content is free