DSP room correction

Paul explains how DSP correction below a certain frequency is good. Above that? Not so much.

[julianklietz]

Living in a small room speakers close to the walls without the possibility of much if any room treatment dsp has greatly helped me achive a sound I enjoy, mostly under 200hz.

[GeneA.]

First of all, great video as always sir. I always value your opinion and I’m constantly learning new things by coming here. After watching the video and reading all the comments I can say this… experiment with both and find what sounds nicest to you personally. This video and these comments have really got me thinking I want to experiment much more to see how it changes my listening experience but in the end it’s all a lot finding that sweet spot that we all love to hear! I think we all are chasing the same thing but might find different paths to getting there and that’s a wonderful thing, not bad. This hobby has never been a one size fits all experience 😄 Happy listening to All 😁👍

[larryh]

Hi Paul, I started working with room correction software about a decade ago and found it fantastic. I first started with Yamaha's YAPO (good) then moved on to Anthem's ARC (much better). For me, 80/20 works. 🙂

[AmazonasBiotop]

That is NOT a issue to go digital.

It is actually a ISSUE (sound quality wise) to not go digital with LPs. 🎉

Remember that the BENEFITS of what DSP can bring is FAR greater than staying in the analog domain and loose out in total sound quality improvements.🎉

And that is not a real controversy or rubbing anyway in the wrong way that Paul said.

Of course you should set up speakers and sound treatment as optimal and in the best way as Paul said.
But THEN we continue to improve from that starting point with help of DSP!

And go beyond the performance envelope that Paul could ever achieve.😅

So it is not either or..😂

[andrewleonhardt]

DSP is essential in car audio for many reasons, but it still can't correct for nulls. Setup here is equally important.

[tothemax]

Without some room treatment, room correction will have next to no control over sounds that have already left the loudspeaker. 300Hz and 4kHz region is the juice, treat it like it is. Thanks Paul 100%.

[baruchdor]

I would be happy to clarify that it is possible to do the measurements using dsp, and even magic beans and then use the results (in terms of the frequency range only) and use an analog equalizer instead 🙏🏻

[MI_MattHarrell]

It's not just that it's digital, but also that the DSP device may not have the highest quality DAC. I don't want my pretty high quality 2-channel stereo music sources, digital or analog, going through a mediocre DAC in my Marantz AV8805. I worked hard on the room issues and speaker placement and was able to have my music go through the "Pure Direct" mode in that AV8805, and it sounds significantly better, too.

[phfen]

To me, better a smart (surely imperfect) DSP well set than ugly physical room treatment. And the sound quality improvement gained with DSP even on a phono input going through ADC then DAC will be better then the loss of sound quality due to those conversions. I have a TDAI-1120 amp and it is simple to use with phenomenal improvements even on phono input !

[stephensr]

When it comes to intergrating subs into the system I wish more manufacturers DSP subs would mesure the room at the listning possition without the sub first so that it can see what its working with. Then add where its needed and not where its not. This is very helpfull when you have full range speakers.

[Natan]

Dsp room correction is perfect for active systems. It’s a must if u ask me. I wish KEF had it. Of course placement comes first but we can’t all make our living “acoustically right” or treat it a lot.. 😅

[skip]

Doesn't rub me the wrong way - reassuring to understand and be on the same page as Paul.

[martinlindberg]

I am with you. Do not add an DSP in the chain in a revealing system because you will mostly degrade the overall sound, BUT you can add a DSP to the subwoofer with great result. Rule of thumbs - Room treatment and setup (both speaker and LP position) first... There are no short cuts for a true Hifi experience :)

[guystpierrecomposer]

Some people still argue that analog is better than digital for recording… am I wrong or Paul don’t think so? Octave record is all digital recording. So for him, the purest recorded signal is digital. As for dsp room correction, almost all recording studio use it (with physical room treatment). Personally, I love DSP room correction because in my professional recording studio and in my Atmos home cinema it just sound better and more accurate! The last 10% of room treatment for the bass in my studio would add 90% in price! Putting that money in good quality speakers is WAY better idea in my opinion. In my treated studio, the peaks and valleys to adjust with dsp is less then 6db… not exactly “huge”

[deanrantala]

Not sure why many don't talk about this specifically much but. What about what I do? Pure analog all the way across the board for 80hz on up. 80 on down, I often like to add DSP (where the analog-digital-analog conversion literally can not be perceived). I typically employ hand built analog 24db Linkwitz Riley filters (thanks, Elliot Sound Products!) just after my pre amp. From there, I will often employ MiniDSP to the low channel - keeping my 80- up channel pure analog.

[gizmobowen]

Whew, dodged a bullet on that one. I love my miniDSP that I've tweaked to optimize my sub. I was sure Paul wasn't going to make me feel guilty about that and want to take it out. Glad I didn't apply it to the rest of my system.

[edasm]

Wasn't that Gayle Sanders Eikon concept? Soup-to-nuts stereo system built to a price?

[DN]

I have a valley at 50hz in my room at the sitting position. Will i not just be moving it to 40 or 60 when moving my subs or speakers?

[richardramorino]

I find Dirac indispensable for my 2 channel system. I only use it for the low end. It make subwoofer integration magically easy because it even takes timing into account. I wouldn't buy a system without it.

[EricBrettJones]

What is the keyboard on the couch next to you please Paul?