ROOM CORRECTION SHOUTOUT | Sound iD vs ARC Studio vs Neumann MA1 vs Trinnov Nova

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🔥I tested four popular room correction and speaker calibration systems to find the most suitable for you! Sonarworks Sound iD vs IK Multimedia ARC 4 Studio vs Neumann MA1 system, vs Tronniv Nova.

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CHAPTERS
00:00 Which is The BEST Room Correction Software?
00:41 Acoustic Treatment Vs Room Correction Software
02:37 Device Overviews & Prices
06:24 Set-Up Time & Ease Of Use
09:45 Resulting Sound, Accuracy & Listening Area
15:00 Sound iD Software Walkthrough
19:04 ARC Studio Software Walkthrough
21:17 Neumann MA1 Software Walkthrough
22:58 Trinnov Nova Software Walkthrough
29:16 Additional Features & ATMOS
33:42 Room Correction Measuring TIPS
34:37 WHICH is BEST & RIGHT for YOU?!
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I have the Neumann KH120 with KH750, but I had always done manual correction and never used the MA-1. I presumed (falsely, due to lack of documentation at the time) that the MA-1 would simply adjust the 8 EQ bands that exist in the manual setup. How wrong I was! Will definitely have to invest in the MA-1 and give it a go. Thanks for the in-depth video!

PrincipalAudio
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Very thorough review. FYI, the audient (Oria) only comes with a 60 day trial of SoundID, it costs €499 to buy the software (€549 if you want the MIC) after that.

d-zone
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Trinnov's additional license thing is highly questionable. You've got the hardware already, but you aren't allowed to use it to its full extend unless you pay another $1000 for two more outputs. Fuck this.

finn
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This is a great review of all the major options. Thanks so much!

DeltaUK_
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Hey Ed, thanks for the video. It was very informative and untill now the only one that helped me so far. I still got a question, you were saying that you were thinking the IKs ARCs mic was bad for measuring low frequencies and therefore the room correction couldnt do its job properly, do you think that by using another this would fix the problem? Has anybody tried this?

rcxgdel
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When you maybe do the Hedd review, can you give your opioin in comparioson to the MUM-8's?... I don't you got to heAR THE 6'S, but if you did

TheSakuraGumiLTD
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Ed,

I appreciate your video. I have Focal Solo6's. In your opinion which of the systems you have described I should get? I also am using RME UFX III which now has room EQ in TotalMIx but not sure if I should use this.

braxal
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Good review, Ed!
I have both Sound ID and ARC Studio. ARC Studio blows Sound ID away, in MY room. I have a small 15'x20' room with a short hallway about 12'x8' opening to the room. I corrected low end standing waves with some extra brick that I had, which helped.
My cloud isn't as dense as I would like, but it helps.
ARC really opened every frequency up and the phase alignment is now on point, giving a more accurate reference.
IK media is not paying for this endorsement.

Jeremy_Kinsey
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So, I got mine and was like; why doesn't it come with a rackmount kit, or something! So, after talking to IK Multimedia and saying there is not one, I decided to do some research and came up with this under-desk mount. Easy install, secure and most of all it works lol...! I mounted it to my right within arm's length, so I can use the bypass at ease without having to take up unneeded space on top of my mixer and desk.... I wonder if they thought about this when they made it? Who wants this little box sitting on the desk? In addition, when you try to use the bypass just sitting on the desk, you have to hold the box and then push the button, otherwise it will slide backwards, or place it against the wall or something keeping it from moving. Overall, awesome unit, save me from taking the software off the mixbus at bouncing and many times forgetting to do so...lol! Anyway, I got two in the shipment, so I msg them, and they said to just keep it or give it away. Msg me, and it's yours, just cover the shipping cost! Cheers, love the channel and content. Learned a lot!

ARC Hardware Under-Desk Mounting Kit:

ThaRealDawn
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One thing to mention ADAM Audio monitors can store the SoundID calibration into the DSP of the speaker thus removing the need to have any plugin running, and to deal with the any software induced latency.

alexreverberi
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And the father of all this tech is introduced in 2005 by Genelec, it's almost 20 years now. With their SAM speaker lineup, you get something similar to Neumann's MA1...But because they have more experience in this tech. I believe they'll be more accurate than MA1... I'm in love with my 8351's. Great comparision!

fattohead
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The only competitor missing is Dirac Live, and I think between Trinnov, Neumann and Dirac, they're the best offerings based on their features.

Trinnov is at the highest premium followed by Neumann and Dirac. Genelec's offerings are great too. And I'd pick Arc over Sound ID.

VenVile
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I was in the market for the ARC Studio and came across this video. You’re the sole reason I went for the trinnov. The minute I dialed it in it immediately became my most valuable piece of gear.

Can’t thank you enough for this video!

WessNyleProduction
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If you move your body out of the listening position you are adversely affecting the correction - since you will be IN the listening position when using the system. Obvs. None of the systems really deal with this issue. Does it have an effect? Yes/No/Maybe who knows? It will vary. The body is acoustically absorbent: cinema seats are modelled to replace the absorbance of the human body when the seat is empty (or used to be). So it's an issue. Very hard to deal with solo! Ideally you'd be seated in the listening position during the measurements. I have ARC4 Studio and Soundworks and homegrown REW based digital correction on different speakers, I'd like to try Trinnov but its price is absurd for a cheap Intel PC board in a box with a few D/A and A/D. If I was a commercial studio, that'd be a different calculation. It's easy (ish) and cheap (er) to add sub/main phase/delay correction using a digital processor if you are technically inclined...

jrgroberts
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Super cool! Paul sent me here as I use Arc 4 with my Adams A8H's in my well treated mixing room and it's the icing on the cake. 😎
P.S Kali's WS-6.2 sub is phenomenal! Stereo, small, vibration free and very powerful.

kadiummusic
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I dont trust any Room Correction system until I check the results in REW, you should check the correction of ARC with REW to know what is doing in the low end

bluematrix
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IK Multimedia's ARC 4 Studio was a complete joke. The registration and activation process is a damned nightmare!! After a week of failed attempts, the product was returned... and the salesman not the least bit surprised it came back!!!
Turns out he doesn't like IK Multimedia either...

twinsprucestudios
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You can’t correct for Nulls. It is not physically possible. Boosting a null will just result in additional Nulling. None of these systems should boost nulls. Trinnov sound like dogs**t. The FIR filters messes with the transients, and the phase coherence is much too focused on listening position, and not enough attention to the dispersion characteristics of the speaker.

vilddyr
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Can I buy one Trinnov box and move the box from my studo room and to my audiophile hi-fi listening room when not in use in one location so I can get the benefit when I'm listening back to music as well as mixing it?

Do you need 2 licenses for 2 rooms or can you save a profile and switch it when you move room?

MOSMASTERING
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Really well done video as always. ARC seems to be a good value for your cheddar overall. Trinnov is a hard NO because of the price. I can slap on a pair of my Neumann headphones and take my room out of the equation and Bob's your uncle. For RME users like myself, they have room correction EQ built in TotalMix so you can run REW for free, get your measurements and and make your corrections in TotalMix and it is Dolby Atmos capable if that is your style. An RME interface comes in well below the Trinnov and the savings could be used towards other gear. Just my 3 cents.

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