Back to the Depraved Heart of the Issue

I chose to provide opportunities for teaching and, by refutation, edification of the saints. The first, which took up most of our time, was a response to about ten relevant points (and those were about all) in the 2 hour, 45 minute video posted recently from Tim Stratton and Tyson James responding to my reply to James’ article on Psalm 33.
#evil #heart #choice #free #action #theodicy #restraint #city

[Kenneth-nVA]

Molinism is so built on; my body, my choices, my freedom! Their view of God is really one formed from deism. God sits back and man dictates the scenario because of their ability via uninterrupted freewill ! Molinists will double back ( watch the debate) when it serves their purpose! When pushed regarding God’s sovereignty and providential plans, they strive to meet in the middle.

[peteryang]

I’m curious to hear a Molinist explain Satan, his nature origin and purpose

[fuzzycounsellor]

13:17 of video >> It would if your daughter hates bikes & you trying to force her to, when she would rather be having a tea party with her imaginary Molinest girlfriend who you cannot see. We/he imagine/s (reads into the example) a willing, happy to learn daughter, desirous of having the ability to ride a bicycle, not one who is totally apposed to it. Presupposition is everything.

[NicholasproclaimerofMessiah]

To me, it just seems to follow, by definition, on Molinism god is merely a lowercase-g god and not the capital-G God.

[rdubyatjr]

Evil does not exist by nature. It is not a “thing” it’s a twisting of God’s goodness, his energies which are all good.

[OneMan-wlwj]

Yea... gonna have to agree, when the subject matter causes the researcher to commit suicide after his research.... the material was a little too dark.

[dylanmilks]

I've come over to the Calvinist side slowly over the past 2 years. I find that it's so freeing to believe in a sovereign God who's sovereign over EVERYTHING, as compared to this Molinist BS.

[SolaScriptura]

I have a feeling the Greeks would have liked molinism

[ghostl]

I accept the whole Bible, and not just the various theological systems that are trying their best to explain it.

[askingwhyisfree]

Evil is needed for Good to exist. The question is why is the world like this today? The point of good and evil is to choose good and shun evil. The world chose evil deliberately which is why there's so much suffering today. It's like when you take an exam, there's choices. The goal is to choose the right answer but there's no power of choice if there's only the right answer and there's no wrong choices. The teaching of the world is to literally choose the wrong choice and it speaks that the wrong choice is also right.



The world don't understand the objective of this reality. You should choose the correct answer. The correct answer is dictated by the teacher. The teacher is God. The world don't recognize God as the teacher because of pride hence choosing what they deem is right when in reality, the right they know is the wrong answer. This then makes the world see evil as good which proliferates the sufferings we have today.



What is the solution? Go back to the teacher. Listen to Him. He is GOD. If you don't listen to the teacher, then your understanding of right and wrong will be distorted because you trust your own understanding of what is good and evil. What God said good is good and what He said evil is evil. We are like little children trying to outsmart the teacher who knows knowledge far beyond our understanding. LISTEN. Ask. Seek. Knock.

[alt-monarchist]

James White doesn't understand Free Will because he doesn't understand that the ORTHODOX CHURCH is the only true Church. Also when will James debate Jay Dyer???