Why Do US Navy Sailors Hate Officers on an Aircraft Carrier?

The life of a sailor can be difficult and taxing at times. Crew members often spend weeks or even months away from home and do not exactly lead a luxurious life while doing so. On an aircraft carrier, it is common knowledge that officers enjoy superior living conditions to those of the sailors. Why is there such a difference in the life of an officer and a sailor?
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A member of the Navy who serves in the enlisted ranks is called a sailor, while officers are Members of the Navy or Navy Reserve who meet the minimum educational criteria of possessing a degree from a college or university that offers a four-year program and who have completed Officer Training are eligible to become commissioned officers.
Officers have separate berthing areas from enlisted personnel which is commonly referred to as “officer country.” Officers have their private quarters in which they sleep. Mess decks are where junior sailors, leading seaman, and below sailors sleep. Senior sailors, including Petty Officers and higher, sleep in multi-berth rooms that are arranged according to their ranks, such as PO, CPO, and MCPO.
The officers' quarters are all the same. Because it is situated over both a pull-out desk and a chest of drawers, the bunk bed is somewhat elevated. A compact cabinet and a foldable wash basin are located at the very end of the bed.
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[navyproductions]

Did you know that there is such a difference in the life of an officer and a sailor aboard an aircraft carrier? Do you think that's justified? Or should sailors also have the same rights as officers and good sleeping quarters ❓💙

[johnharris]

There is a joke where a Sergeant on a dark night walked by Eisenhower and forgot to salute. When he realized his mistake he ran back to the general, saluted and Apologized. Eisenhower offered the man a cigarette, and told him "Sergeant the army does not care if you forget to salute a 5-star general." Then Eisenhower took a slow drag on his cigarette and said "But Sergeant, don't you ever forget to salute a 2nd Lieutenant."

[CAPTOFCCVA]

I am a Navy veteran who served aboard a super carrier as an enlisted man. The headline for this video is based on a lack of information: sailors do not hate offiecrs. In fact, some of the guys I served with who were officers were my best friends and some of the enlisted men aboard were hated.

[neillester]

I served for almost 3 years on the USS Dwight D Eisenhower and I did not hate officers. I knew that they earned their place onboard and I could have too if I’d wanted to. I really never even thought about how they lived compared to me. I had two officer friends, one was an F-14 pilot that I went to church with, and the other was an F-14 RIO in the other squadron. We treated each other with mutual respect as shipmates should and that was that. As far as the differences in living conditions went, everyone onboard knew that the chiefs had the best life of anyone on the boat. They had great quarters and ate the best chow -far better than anyone in officer’s country. Chiefs were also the most respected because they knew everything about anything, and they damn sure earned their anchors! Whoever did this video is damn irresponsible and uninformed! GO NAVY!

[michaelgardner]

As a retired Marine E-8 I want to say I served with a lot of great Naval Officers and Enlisted and made a lot of friends. As for the production of the video, this person has it all wrong and apparently has never served on any naval vessel. As a young marine I served aboard the USS Forrestal for a total of 12 months in 1972/73. I was a plane captain assigned to VMFA-531 the Gray Grost and spent a lot of time on the flight deck caring for the F-4 I was assigned to. Our sister squadron was VF-11, between the two of us we were a team and had a lot of respect for each other. As for officers there was a lot of respect for them, they had a hard job to do getting those aircraft on and off that carrier safely. They also had a lot of respect for the enlisted man, because they knew we were the ones that brought them back home save each and every flight. As for living quarters that was to be expected as an enlisted man and I can say it was not all that bad. I will say the chief petty officers and senior marines had a great mass hall, I know, I was assigned to get the food for the cook daily. So, hats off to each and every one of the naval chiefs and officers. Semper Fi my brothers!

[johnnyg]

I am a US Navy veteran who was a flight deck aircraft director. There was no hatred ever between the enlisted ranks and officers. In fact, there was a tremendous amount of respect demonstrated between both groups. The ships company (enlisted) needed and respected the ships officers. And the officers, especially the flight deck and hanger deck officers, showed tremendous respect for the Airedales on the ship. The function of the ship is impossible without both groups acting this way.

[harrygmarshall]

As a Navy Veteran, I can speak with first hand knowledge, , very few Officers are hated, ,, just as in Civilian life there are a few Officers who just don’t get “it”, , how to lead and not “push” Men . New young Officers soon learn from salty older Chiefs and Petty Officers how to treat Sailors to gain respect and loyalty from them .
There will always be a few proud hardheaded officers who will never learn and are usually ending on shore duty where they can do the least damage .
I have been with Officers in in a land far away and long ago that I would followed storming the gates of hell .
God Bless our Officers and the Men who follow.🙏🏻🇺🇸

[richardhenson]

I served aboard a carrier, an amphib, two flag commands and a Seabee battalion, and not once did I hate any officer. There may have been differences in opinions, but no outright hatred. As a Navy veteran of 22 years, I saw a few of my subordinates become officers themselves. They became officers not in search of better conditions or to impose their authority over the enlisted people, but they became officers because they had the guts to lead, and they knew that if the enlisted ranks fail, the officer corps fail… and the mission fails.

[SuperKanonier]

I served in the British army for 24 years, I found that loyalty and respect only works if it is reciprocal.

[mr.luisanthonydivito]

I served 10 years in the Navy. There was no 'hate' between officers and enlisted sailors. In fact, many officers in the aircraft carrier were former enlisted sailors themselves. Moreover, US Navy Chief Petty Officers (CPO) have a unique role in delegating the duties of the day and provide an enlisted advisory role to the officers.

[liferdog]

I was in the United States Navy for 33 years from 1979 to 2012, I was an enlisted sailor from 1979 to 1989 and was commissioned as an Ensign in 1990. My experience from E1 thru O6 was as expected, I never had any animosity towards those appointed over me at anytime in my career in fact my goal was to follow the best leaders and emulate them when I had the opportunity. I was nominated/selected on several occasions as Sailor of the Quarter and was also selected as Sailor of the Year at my last command prior to being selected to attend OCS. If u understand boundaries and respect the chain of command, if u work as hard as you can in your rate and eventually decide you would like to apply to become an officer it is possible. Only the sick, lame and lazy fail to thrive in the Navy. LCPO’s, Division Officers and Department Heads are always on the lookout for outstanding performers. It’s your responsibility from Boot Camp, to A School, to your first command (aboard ship or ashore) to be on time, ask questions, seek advice from a trusted mentor, follow the directions of your division Petty Officers, and most importantly do your job as if your life and the lives of your shipmates depended on it. Don’t sweat the small stuff, don’t make excuses and definitely don’t complain about things you have absolutely no control of. As for me Oh the best part after all that time in the service, Uncle Sam sends me a thank you note on the first of every month until I die.

[invoxicated]

My have things changed. I'm a Vietnam Navy Vet. and things were different back in those days. I was in a Navy Attack squadron and our Officers were great guys. They new that their lives were in our hands. Several of them went on Liberty with us and bought us drinks and a good night on the town. While bar hopping we addressed them by their rank or sir. They told us while on Liberty to knock that shit off. We have a first name like you. Back on ship it was back to the Navy norm. They often came by our shops aboard the carrier and shot the shit with us before a combat mission in Vietnam. We had the utmost respect for them as they did for us. Thats just the way it was. I lost my division officer as he was shot down south of the DMZ. He bailed out and made it on the ground but put up a fight against the NVA and was killed. He was one of the officers that took us on liberty. I have a tracing of his name from the Wall in D.C. RIP LT. Dan Borha😪

[melwood]

I served 21 years in the Navy and on two aircraft carriers. Myself and the majority of the enlisted crew did not hate officers.

[seanthomxx]

Retired FC, I came to realize the Navy is structured less like a military branch and more like a business: officers are executives, blue shirts are the workforce, chiefs are the managers. Department, divisions and work centers are how we're organized. Even the name of the departments are corporate, i.e. Logistics, Operations, Administration, Engineering.

[mikelmeadows]

I served on three ships in my nearly 5 years in the NAVY. I never heard of anyone hating an Officer or NCO for having better food or berthing arrangements. I have seen some hated because of a poor and haughty attitude or incompetence. But that was fairly rare.

[michaelsmith]

Started out as an E3 on a carrier (CV-63) and yes the officers had better quarters, better food, better heads, head of the line privileges, cleaning service, laundry service. They had all these benefits because they earned it. I had every opportunity to go to college earn a degree that was useful to the Navy and work towards a commission. I chose to go enlisted which is a faster path to service and does not carry the heavy burden of greater responsibility. I did not have any hatred or animosity towards the officers on our ship, at least in my time young sailors were mentored well enough to understand this.

[Americanpatriot-zotk]

I was in the United States Navy on a destroyer. Most of the officers had my respect.

[jamesmeyer]

My son enlisted in the Army right after high school. He didn't want to go to college because he didn't like school and didn't know what career to pursue. He did love the infantry and excelled during his enlistment. But when he got out, he joined the Army National Guard, went to college on the GI Bill and got his degree. A year or so after graduating, he went back into the Army as a 2nd Lieutenant. He was recently promoted to Major and is now attending the Army Command and Staff College. I'm very proud of him - he earned whatever pay and benefits he receives. I know some enlisted guys hate officers, but they would probably hate anyone who outranked them, even though they have the same opportunities.

[brucejohnson]

I am USN Veteran who served on 3 aircraft carriers. nobody "Hated" anyone. there were differences of opinions. But as the old saying goes, " Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one"... I was a plane captain, ensuring that my particular aircraft was ready and prepared safe for the pilot (officer) to fly. I took pride in my job. and got lots of respect for it.

[paulsmith]

I was in the Marine Corps from 1956 to 1962. I spent two years in the active reserves and three years on active duty. I was enlisted; I rose to E-5.

I don't recall enlisted men hating officers, but it was crystal clear, even to a youngster, that officers simply live better than enlisted personnel.

The hierarchy of the military convinced me that I did not want to make a career in the Marines, but I am glad that I served. It made me a better person.