Piapro Studio NT Beta Vocals in Project Sekai Compilation

this is just something i was pretty curious about myself and a lot of other people probably are too!! maybe someday when all their vbs get finished and released we can look back on this and see how much they changed!!

also obviously i dont own anything here i just put it all together all the song credits are in the video etc etc

[abdulaisiyoup]

Meiko NT sounds incredibly depressing, especially as someone who really loves Meiko's voicebanks

[fandomencounter]

Rin: better pronunciation, pretty good voice.

Len: better pronunciation which is usually a problem so that good, less power and clarity which was kinda his thing.

Luka: muffled. Doesn't sound like her.

Meiko: Less power, better pronunciation, muffled a bit. Doesn't really sound like herself.

They tried hard on the pronunciation and it turned out great, but the quality of the voices have gone down.
I also dislike the tuning in the game, I feel like it could be much better.

[SourSalty]

As someone who used used Piapro NT. I feel like Rin's user was the only one who took time to actually tune tune her in more cases. In alot of cases she's just untunned. But that fits with the theme of the demo voicebanks not being tune. And Miku NT never being tuned in project Sekai. They feel thrown out like that.

[tavellcoops]

rin is solid, meiko sounds like a soft append, len is weaker, and kaitos tone is better, but they all have this compressed sound thats like the high notes are strangled, but theyare better than miku. butyoure gonna stop effin my girl luka up crypton, pls. fix her

[dakusleep]

Rin NT to me sounds really great, I love her voice especially in Showtime Ruler, she adds a lovely contrast between Rui and Tsukasa 🧡

[vivian]

LUKA NOO 😭😭 SHE ALWYS GETS DONE SO DIRTY ESPECIALLY THAT ECHO COVER WTF

[LucyLerma]

Hopefully Len and Meiko will get their power back someday

[hoshiworks_aster]

Okay, here're my opinions on these:
Rin: Improved, definitely.
Len: Wavered, but improved.
Luka: Kinda goin' down.
MEIKO: Stagnant, but this is CFM we're talking about so moving on,
KAITO: Improved, even if slightly.

[HarmonicVector]

"Kneel to your new gods, bitch."
- Kagamine twins commanding Miku

[extraterrestrial_lurka]

Man Meiko sounds like she’s having a bit of an identity crisis?? She kinda sounds like Yowane Haku especially at 18:22
But it’s kinda cute

[josieuwu]

they did meiko and luka SO dirty. it feels like they took the very soul out of both of them, luka more so than meiko. she just sounds muffled and weak. as for meiko, any richness that her voice had gets lost in the nt version. i'm hoping cfm actually takes fans' criticism into consideration but i don't have much hope. the only one i can say that consistently improved is rin.

[Dennokopfan]

meiko and Luka always sound like they forgot to swallow, like its very from of the back of their throat (more so MEIKO)

[systematicerror]

My thoughts
Rin: sounds good! But has lost a little of the "Rin" sound
Len: sometimes sounds like Len, sometimes doesn't
Luka: where is my Luka justice??? I can kinda hear her "Luka" sound in the lower notes
Meiko: idk who is singing but it's not Meiko
Kaito: actually sounds like Kaito

[nintendont]

Project Sekai was definitely a good opportunity to showcase the upcoming NT vocal synths, and based on the samples in the vid, I'm honestly very impressed by them. From my ears, all the characters seem to keep their voices recognizable with some interesting caveats I'll mention below, but their quality and sample fidelity seem a lot better compared to their Vocaloid voicebanks. Rin is my favorite NT vocal synth so far followed closely by Len, their quality is superb while retaining their vocal properties. Luka and especially Meiko blew me away because they seem to have much better fidelity to the point where they're more distinct in their sound compared to their Vocaloid voicebanks, but I honestly like it. Kaito seems to have changed the least and I think what I'm looking forward for is better fidelity with his low-end harmonics. One thing I will say across all characters (except Rin, I feel that she's not relevant with this with her already very high-pitched voice) is that I think they've gained a lot more brightness/sweetness in their harmonics but need more dark, strong, low-end harmonics. Len at 7:30 caught my attention, his voice could've been a bit more bassy and I feel that it's a bit hollow. Meiko's voice threw me off a bit because I'm so used to Meiko having a more deeper, darker contralto voice (a song that comes to my mind that demonstrates that vocal quality well is E.L.V.N's Break It, Break It), but I'm honestly really excited to hear Meiko able to sing very softly and sweetly and I think that will open up a lot of opportunities for her usage. I feel like some of my harmonic nitpickiness is based on an individual producer's mastering, but most of it is on the voicebank's sound synthesis.

I would honestly need a lot more samples to get to know the voices better and I'm absolutely no expert at audio engineering, but based on my personal judgement, I think they could use some more work but they seem pretty good in terms of the software being in beta. What I want to know though is how much work in tuning the vocals was done to make them sound good, because I'm going to assume that the workflow was done with a lot of resources at hand considering these NT covers were being made for a major mobile game and the covers are using unreleased software. At the moment, I'm hearing that it's difficult to work with Miku NT either through difficulties working with the Piapro Studio NT interface or trying to reproduce sound qualities that were present in Vocaloid that people really wanted to push out of the NT versions, and so I feel that people are unable to use the full potential of her voicebank and it's very hard for me to fairly judge on her voice. I assume developing on a bespoke vocal synth engine must be a huge undertaking so I'm taking current results still with a grain of salt, but I do believe that Piapro NT will get better over time; I just think NT got a bad reputation due to releasing rather early, but the samples from Project Sekai make me feel more hopeful for NT.

[Gerokero]

Lmao love how rin is the one that sounds the best so far imo 💖 i was worried they were gonna do her wrong

[randomname]

Omg great video! A couple of observations, if you don’t mind:
1.- I think Bring It On uses the original Len / Rin vocals, or at least the VOCALOID engine since they sound really alike.

2.- Same for Nostalogic, but in this case it’s 100% the og vocals.

3.- Drop pop candy uses Luka NT but ONLY near the end, during the part she doesn’t sing in the VOCALOID version.

4.- I think you missed Dreamin Chuchu? Understandable since Luka sounds NOT great there lol.

Aside from that, thanks for putting everything together!

[viscerasys]

Len NT sounds amazing- as soon as he’s released i’m going to buy him immediately

[JazyyWazyy]

I think I really do like their NTs however don't like how they compare with other competitors on the market. I think it's a really good addition to the catalog for these characters especially the ones other than miku

[cloedll]

Luka and her vocal decline is SENDING ME

[job-u]

Damn... I was expecting to be let down so badly, pleasantly surprised this is not the case. And i'm happy to note that most of the covers just suffer from bad tuning (or rather, a lack of it). Pretty hopeful on the future of NT, they are improving bit by bit, but an improvement nonetheless