Dominions 5 Basic Nation Analysis - EA Atlantis

Early Age Atlantis is arguably the most flexible (in some ways) of the EA underwater nations, in that everything they have can go onto land with no issues. With strong, efficient troops and decent expander options, Atlantis can start strong and establish themselves as a power early on, including expanding onto land - however, an inability to recruit national mages on land and a decidedly inefficient research will slow you down as the game progresses, and a very poor sacred makes a truly strong early rush hard to execute. However, once you reach high research levels, judicious use of small communions and your high-powered Basalt Kings can allow those armies of efficient troops to punch well above their weight.

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[DarkVeghetta]

I don't play at the moment, but I greatly enjoy listening to Dominions lore and analysis.
This one was very well made and I'm looking forward to watching the rest.

[eerywax]

I gotta say, the unit you skipped over, Shamblers of the Deep, are my go-to for initial expansion. 6 attacks per square and 9 prot on a high HP unit makes them take manageable attrition and wreck most UW provinces until you need the basalt spears.

[jacksonl.]

I discovered a blessing that makes the Living Pillars quite effective. In an AI game, I was fighting Kailasa, and they were literally unstoppable unless routed Via commander. I used 5 Reinvigoration and 2 Defense Skill effects, 6W10E Pretender. The Pillars were unstoppable because of the high protection, and the natural protection of the head was enough that arrows were mostly ineffective. With the Reinvigoration, they didn't pass out after 5 swings, and the defense skill, mediocre as it was, managed to stop some of the attacks from hitting. Very good with this blessing. Going after Therodos, Machaka, and Tir na n'Og next.

[tornielsen]

Should likely point out that the W3 mages can cast both Sailors Death and Curse of the desert.

[GaldirEonai]

While EA Atlantis gets no national heroes normally, if you have Worthy Heroes they get some very interesting ones (one breaks you into air, one breaks you into nature and has a forge bonus, and the final one is holy 4 and can hit holy 5 if propheted. And holy 5 is absolutely hilarious against anybody relying on demons or undead...

[ElGringonius]

I'd say that reef dwellers definitely have their use as chaff against cavalry with a hoof attack. They'll die in droves but you can definitely deal some damage back against elf cavalry if they aren't blessed for poison resistance.

[theral]

Btw, nobody made a berytos analysis yet.

[srsilver]

1 critique, clam of pearls needs 1W 1N not 1W 1S so EA Atlantis can't natively make it.

[charlesballiet]

4:53 oof now I know where the lobo guard come from

[bodyguardik]

Thank you, sir! Such great analysis for newbies like me.

[k_god]

I wouldn't underestimate the living pillars.. i casted rigor mortis and curse of stones and they still held out for most of the battle. Slap on regen and magic resist on them and you're straight..

Had an atlantis player win with a bless like that. Can't remember if they took regen but they most likely did.

[Slayerlord]

What about your mages of the deep that random water 4? Should be as (un)common as fire 2/earth 2. And since your basalt king can make hammers, you just need 3 water gems to get those water 4 mages to water 5. (or the much more numerous water 3 guys to water 4 to spam falling frost or something)

[Kjellbot]

i mainly wish the mages of the deep were sacred. hugely better research efficiency plus they'd love a reinvig bless. or far caster! i don't even care about priest levels tho i'd take it of course. i feel like that'd push them from "acceptable, all things considered" to a solid workhorse mage. churning out dudes who can summon claymen, terracotta warriors and eventually green lions plus the F2 and E2 combat mages isn't the worst. never mind the decent crafting options. getting nothing at all special to recruit in land forts does hurt tho. it's kinda boring, you know?


if you want a strong earth nation with amphibian troops you're maybe better off with Agartha, but if Atlantis got just a little something for spice that'd go a really long way for me. maybe throw a helmet at the pillar fish while we're at it, it would leave them with a less glaring weakness and could open up the choice of what kind of bless you're aiming for exactly. Atlantis isn't far away from having a much nicer range of options.

[jg]

22:00 I seem to remember the "clam of pearls" being n1w1 not s1w1?

[LancelotLps]

Could you pleace make Ma Man as Basic Nation Analysis i would love too help you than!!! Pleace!!!

[hartzaden]

also warriors od the deep with there cold/fire resist also care less about your above gound temp scales
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