Black powder and smokeless. There’s a big difference!

Some common misconceptions about black powder cartridges and some salty comments

Why do people say this about black powder 45 Colt?

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[Everythingblackpowder]

Sorry folks, somehow I managed to edit out a crucial piece of information about loading black powder cartridge. There can be no air space between the top of the powder and the bottom of the projectile! In other words the projectile must be seated up against the powder. It’s pretty much the only rule.

[BcFuTwjt]

All pre 1886 brass or copper cased ammo was blackpowder loaded. This is what happens when all your gun knowledge if from video games

[CultOfArms]

Finally someone that understands the difference between black powder and smokeless!

[BobLoblongEsq]

I think the "THIS IS BLACK POWDER" sign should become a real thing, that would be funny as fuck 🤣🤣🤣 It's always the most confident people who are the most wrong about whatever they're talking about. This video was much needed, love the channel, keep it up!

[paulkopacz]

If you don't know the difference between Black powder and smokeless powder, you should either educate yourself on the subject or just buy your ammo. This gentleman KNOWS what he's talking about.

[SouthernGreyShark]

It is utterly amazing and patently ridiculous that anyone working at a gun range or any place that has something to do with firearms doesn't know about black powder cartridges.

[nitinkumar]

That "like and subscribe" written in black powder was just awesome.
Totally deserve huge appreciation brother

[benjaminparry]

The reason your short videos took off so much is because of me. Pretty sure ive watched em' all like 1000 times.

[taofledermaus]

I'm pretty sure YT is threatened by Tik Tok so that is why they are pushing the shorts so hard. Also, I think this is the reason they have eased up on demonetizing every dang video like they did just up til about a year ago. But I refuse to do shorts for a few reasons. They don't pay, so why bother. I don't WANT subscribers with a super short attention span who are just going to whine about how I "talk too much" in a regular-length video. If they even bother to watch the video, they are going to skip over the majority of it then ask you questions why you didn't do something that you did. People with short attention-spans (the people who watch shorts) also use ad blocker, so they have no VALUE as a viewer. YT doesn't make any money from shorts either, so it's really a terrible business decision on their part.

[johncashwell]

This reminds of Jeff and Gregg over on the Taofledermaus channel dealing with people telling them that there is no such thing as a "rifled shotgun barrel". It just blows me away that in the age of instant information people don't "research before responding". Last night at our get-together we were reminiscing about laser discs and video discs from 80s. Some thought they were the same, including me, others said they were different. Well let's stop arguing and find out, I said, so I researched it. Answer> They are very different.

[TheStraycat]

I reload smokeless, and I tinker with Black Powder as well. I have a CVA Bobcat Sidelock, and an 1858 Remington New Army revolver that I make combustible paper cartridges for. I also have a Taylors And Company 45Colt conversion cylinder for it that I only just started reloading for (I only have access to pyrodex ATM, but I'm thinking of making my own powder, eventually)

Screw The Haters, the Know-Nothings, and Safety-Rangers. they do not know as much as they think they know.
btw, that over the shoulder shot was pretty good, man. *thumbs up*

[mitchdyer]

Dear Everything Black Powder This is a very good and much needed video. A lot of folks today have little understanding of black powder today: not always their fault! Often when knowledge is lacking, all kinds of ideas begin to take hold. I was fortunate in having been taught 50 years ago about black powder by folks who were well over 50 years old then. They had grown up with it. Be patient and keep up the good work so we can nurture and grow the next generation of black powder enthusiasts. Thank You

[tenlittleindians]

Dixie Gun Works used to show one of their octagon rifle barrels with a breech plug installed in each end that was filled from one end to the other with black powder. They lit it off through the touch hole with a piece of fuse. The barrel did not blow up. The entire volume of gas produced had to exit through that touch hole!

[HoffmanReproductions]

LOL! Got to love the "Safety Marshall's" Could not make the videos with out them. Good job Jake!

[matthewsullivan]

I always assumed the ways black powder and smokeless powder burn in the open air would mimic the environment in which they burn inside a case (or barrel). Makes sense that the opposite burning characteristics occur in both powders though! Also I too have been told many times black powder was never loaded into brass cases.... some people need to invest a little more time into researching history it would seem! :)

[michaelfuller]

I woud like to see a velocity comparison using equal amounts of 1, 2, 3 and 4F grades of bp in 45 Colt. Keep up the good work.

[thinkingbill]

If memory serves, only about 25% of the mass of BP converts to gas whereas nearly 100% of most smokeless does. For quick reference, looking at my Speer #14 manual, max listed for a .45 Colt (Colt SAA 5.5") using a 250 grn. LSWC is 9.5 grn of Unique for 941 fps. 40 grn of 3F should be about the same speed performance. The important thing is that in both cases pushing the bullet down the barrel is the path of least resistance for the gas to escape. Normally, pushing the bullet down the barrel happens long before the yield strength of the cylinder/chamber is reached and we are all happy. With BP cartridges/guns one runs out of volumetric capacity for the propellant long before the yield strength of the steel. That said, a double charge in a muzzle loader is possible and a bad thing or 40 grns of Unique in .45 Colt really really bad! Point is, these things were worked out long before any of us were born. Given a few simple rules Black Powder is much more forgiving then smokeless. (Maybe we can get Kentucky Ballistics to try a .30-378 Weatherby with all the FFg it can hold but who will pony up the money destroy a nice As for BP being obsolete, not at all, NASA and the military still use it. Y'all live well and shoot happy!

[couerleroi]

I make my own black powder, load my own primers and cast my own bullets. It is so much fun!! I have loaded black powder .223 to shoot in a single shot rifle. Subsonic, of course, but it is fun and as accurate as any other subsonic .223 loads I have shot.

[crowmagnon]

Naaaa. Reloading specs suggest compressed smokeless loads all the time. I load compressed smokeless myself quite often. It's in the suppliers books, load data .

[GenderSkins]

For all those folks who think there was no such thing as a black powder cartridge I have this bit of history for you. The metallic cartridges replaced cap and ball revolvers in the 1870s, and the first black powder cartridge was the 1870 Smith & Wesson model 3. The conversion process generally involved taking the old revolver and cutting off the back of the muzzle loading cylinder, replacing it with a conversion ring that would accept the new sealed breech loading cartridges. The under barrel rammer, not needed to pack balls and powder anymore, was replaced with an ejector rod to push the spent cartridge brass backwards out of the cylinder once fired. A series of new production cylinders, manufactured and added to old stocks of existing Colt parts, was also used. Overall fewer than 25, 000 new-built and converted models were made by the factory from 1871-1880. Now smokeless was originally invented in 1884. So by default, all guns prior to 1884 was black powder and shot black powder loads including the 1870 Smith & Wesson Model 3 revolver. That should clear up the argument about black powder cartridges.