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The only thing fundamental is the actual formula for the creation of a universe/existence. Everything else is a biproduct of that creation. So called time, matter, states of matter, dimensions, black hole, worm holes, whatever :) are all a result of creation. The reason science has such a hard time is that it does not want to go beyond the moment of creation. It is a horror to them they cannot face :)

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