Sonos Pairing & Grouping Explained

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In Part 1 I do my best to explain and differentiate Sonos component pairing and grouping capabilities. In Part 2 I do a step by step setup of the Nakamichi Dragon 'Slayer' Configuration I reviewed in my previous video

Chapters:
0:00 Intro
00:48 Pairing
3:01 Grouping
3:45 Step by Step of Dragon 'Slayer'
8:41 Subscribe!!!

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The Sonos 300 stands arrived a few days ago, the 300s arrived today. Assembled the stand and followed your instructions on setting them up. Worked like a charm. Then I turned on the TV and OMG!!! The 300s provide the bass the arc was missing (subs are at the rear of my room). There is a wall of sound and authority that the Arc by itself simply did not have. Before setting them up, I questioned whether this was going to make a difference and whether I would regret my decision. After a brief listen, I seriously doubt it. I was just listening to an episode of Black Mirror. With an action flick, the sound must be epic!

ccdccd
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Dude. Ur a life saver. No one else has come even close to explaining this. Much much

writebrained
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I have done this with 4 Era 100s And it sounds awesome!! For volume control all I did was too use An IKEA Symfonisk Remote that way I can control group volume without my phone

jebber
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I love it. I actually tried it in my house. I actually have towers up front as well - with the Sonos Amp- so they are integrated and found the towers to be a better add up front…, but that’s my room. I also went into Dialogue Sync and kicked the toggle up to 3 and that lines all the speakers involved and syncs the sound. But sometimes it can pull the lip sync off a tiny bit from screen to sound when you do that, but not noticeable to stop the madness.. I appreciate your effort and love the videos! Thank you. 👊

theglovelock
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You do Sonos instruction better than Sonos. Sonos should hire you.

musicvideos
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I just did this with Eras in surround and OneSLs are front stereo pair. Set up was easy, and it sound great. I was thinking I may have to adjust the sync a bit, and was wondering why you did not go into this, but it is not necessary. Brilliant! Works great for TV home theater, and music with no echoing etc.!!!

Subjective_JoshNelson
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i nearly fell out when you said "I'm broken, and need more" Rigorously honest! (and...same)

MrDry
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I’m still waiting for Sonos making it possible to make several groupings/parrings at the same time that I can choose between. I have a layout at home where a pair of era 300’s would be perfect as rears and at the same time being used for both a stereo pair and as a single speaker for my kitchen on the kitchen island. Really not seeing what should limit this in the software, so hoping it’ll be made possible at some point soon.

thomassinikangas
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BTW. I finally bought a pair of Era 300s. Created a stereo pair and grouped them as fronts, with my Beam 2, Gen 2 sub, a 2 symphoniks rears. It works wonderfully with Atmos Movies and Music from Apple TV. I now have upward firing front sound, with great sound stage without having to buy an ARC. The Ikea rears do a fine job as rears.

ArmandoLabrada-wx
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Thanks for the posting the video, very useful. Seen others and they talk useless info that wasn’t searching for.

ronnyhislop
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I have Arc with Era 100 in the rear and a Sonos bass mini. Wow the sound is wonderful

rdboston
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Have you tried the Dolby test tones on this? I tried this with my One's and experiment was a fail. My heights stopped working (had to unpair and pair the era 300s), and the dolby test tones the Ones were playing too much of the rear sound. The wall of sound coming from the front was really intriguing and there was some benefit from having LR separation. But too many other issues.

chrisb
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Very nice!!! Ive looked at the comments, seems like im the only one that has a delay between the stereo speakers and theatre!? (Im running five as stereo, 300 as surround)

I tried playing around with group delay without luck.

Makes every movie sound echo

gostdogcrx
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After listening for a few days. I have an observation and a question. The observation is that you probably want the Sonos app open when you watch TV. Any change in volume to the Arc will have to be compensated for with the front 300s. You will probably need to play around to figure out the volume differences that suit you best.

The question I have right now is that I tend to feel like the rear surround are being drowned out. This may be a reason to have a bigger volume difference between the Arc and the front 300s.

ccdccd
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What a great video! It was exactlt what i was looking for!. Sonos should make a pairing system less complicated definitely

carloseduardojaramillo
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So good to see that this is possible but Im still a little confused.
I had my first experience with Sonos buying an ERA 300 pair and combined these with a GEN 3 sub. Was impressed with these for music and getting to experience the Dolby Atmos music tracks.

A few weeks ago I added the ARC and my first impressions were dashed at how much worse the music was when using the ARC and ERA 300 now as surrounds. I know now that yes for movies the Arc/Era/Sub setup is excellent but Im still missing the experience I loved with the music.

So can anyone confirm.
When having an additional stereo pair of ERA 300 grouped with a HT setup, what happens when playing Dolby Atmos / Spatial tracks? Do you then still get the height audio from the stereo pair and the HT. Or does the user have to then reduce the volume of the ARC/SUR but still leave the SUB audio level to preference.

It would be good to have another video on this, but showcase such a setup with Spatial / Dolby Atmos for music and then also for Dolby Atmos for Games / Movies / TV shows.

Mr_Latte_UK
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YouTube offers up this video because I am searching how to work the app and configurations after I’ve moved and now have a different network. 😠
My first job is somehow to get the app to re-recognize my old SL’s and my new Arc, Beam, sub and mini sub (two different room setups). 🧐
Then, I can go through your video for those rooms.

kevinvitale
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It's seriously insane how hard it is to get 2added speakers working. I followed this guide 100% but can not get any audio from the back speakers. I work in IT and have delt with 100s of software's and this is by far the hardest to actually get working.

Larimuss
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Hey, could you make a best sound settings for a sonos arc, sub, era 300s surrounds, home theater set up

Thor__
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Hi there.. Really helpful video. For my TV setup : I was thinking of grouping a pair of Sonos 5s (front Right and Left) with a Sonos Beam (connected to the TV via HDMI). Will there be any issues controlling the volume of this entire group with the TV remote? Or will I have to use the Sonos app for that?

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