Machiavellianism vs Narcissism: The KEY Differences

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[TheRojo]

Be informed that Niccolo Machiavelli did not condone the behaviours he outlined in strategies he posited as ideal or flawless for rulers to retain their power, in his essay. He merely revealed all the cards in a ruler's hand to commoners.

[delphinepsychoyos]

thank you, so insightful my exboyfriend had bothmachiavellic and narcissistic traits. i had no idea these things existed in a person. i broke through (at tremendous, immensurable loss) - and finally free of his grip and enjoying life to its fullest. now i can put actual words to explain who he was. thank you again

[olekristianrannekleiv]

I know a narcisist, a narcisist are quite easy to spot if he/she is simple/not smart, because their traits becomes so transparent.

[shawnwarrynn]

Ok, slightly problem, that part about Dark triad personality traits being more dominant in men is not only outdated but bias. Women have actually ben found to exhibit more Narcissistic and Machiavellian traits in comparison to men.

[Poppy-yxjs]

The part where they are putting my life in danger and don’t have empathy or remorse means the person harassing me is disordered.

[cht]

Mix and stir: Narcissistic + Histrionic + Paranoid + OCD + Avoidant = Prison. Living with someone with these PD is being a PRISONER OF A SADIST.

[maureenerwin]

This is great! One of the best explainers I’ve seen. Russian political culture is inherently nihilistic and Machiavellian. A very good example of the pure pursuit of power with complete disregard for other people. I wrote about Putin for the SF Examiner. Trump is a great admirer of his.

[lndeep]

I think this presents differently when people are highly intelligent, socialised and a bit reflective.

[maebonita]

This is crazy how a human brains works 😦😦😦

[superxccomega]

Machiavellianism sounds like a superpower. Really cool.

[imago]

If you look into young Machs research it is a defense mechanism that develops in childhood due to having to survive your environment. Their brain also sees patterns in everything especially human behavior. Like some in the dark tetrad not all Machs are out for power.

[entrepreneur]

Love your vids bro hope you stay consistent with your channel you have great potential to blow up someday

[vkevpe]

Interesting overview. I’m not certain that it’s dramatically more common in men, but probably the effect of testosterone amplifies it to the degree that it causes legal problems, and as a result, appears more common. I also note that I share some of those traits but I’m very high in empathy (detrimentally, perhaps?), and conscientiousness, but also high in neuroticism. So a lot of nuance, but a great overview!

[pauladuncanadams]

Good stuff! Would be interested in a comparison with the third leg, psychopathy. Thanks.

[DougOfTroy]

I see why Scientology has a problem with psychiatry

[jilltraver]

Thank you Jim, this was so interesting and educational. I would love to hear how to spot a person who has machiavellianism.

[bonnielee]

Jim Brillon,
Could you do a video on sadistic personality disorder? It used to be in the DSM but was taken out. Could you please explain why it was put in and then why it was taken out and what is the same and difference about it in comparison to sadism? Thank you.
My sister is a covert narcissist. She is sadistic but not in the way that it is defined as in gaining sexual arousal or laughing but in the way that a Bully gets pleasure in physically beating you ( my sister did to me all the way into our early twenties ). They learn that it is against the law to physically beat you and so then mentally beat you. They put you down and destroy you. I see this as a form of sadism, why? Why do I see it like that even though it does not fit the definition? Thank you.

[BeeBeeBell]

How much comorbidy exists? Can malignant narcs have sadistic, psychopathic traits? I'm in the mental health field and I am aware of the differences in the prefrontal cortex and amygdala of ASPDs but is there literature or have there been scans on malignant narcs???

[meip]

Wouldn't a Machiavellian person's drive of competitiveness and power mean that they would want to win every other 'game', even possibly at the expense of the current 'game'? Wouldn't that create, at least a type of, moral framework and ability to integrate into society better than a narcissist or psychopath?

[ashtynrose]

I don't agree withe Machiavellian types being disagreeable to the level you express in the video. Perhaps internally they are like that, but given they wish to avoid drawing attention to themselves and have impulse control, it is not smart to be obviously disagreeable, that would draw attention to you and cause you to lose allies who you might need for your goals. Really doesn't align with the idea of that personality type.