How The Empire Could Of Won After Endor: Star Wars Rethink

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How Could the empire of turned this defeat around and emerged victorious in the Galactic civil war?

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LoreGuy
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"Conviene all ships on Endor. I want the moon obliterated and the rebels wiped from the face of the galaxy."

"Sorry, sir, actually, we can't. The rebels have won. "

"What do you mean they won? We have tens of thousands of ships! We have... We control countless worlds! With billions of troops at our disposal!"

"But they just blew up the second death star and killed the emperor."

"So?"

"So that means they won."

"How does that mean they won? They blew up the first Death Star years ago and the fighting continued. "

"Yes, but they didn't kill the emperor. They had to do both."

"We can't fight back?"

"No. Sorry. This is the end of the Empire."

"Really?"

"Yeah... 'fraid so. That's it then."

"What do we do now?"

"I guess we could go get a massage."

"Ah, let's do that."

daveshn
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Ironically, the story of an innocent Palpatine being murdered was the story that the Empire sold to the human population of Coruscant in legends. In the novel Wedge's Gamble, Rogue Squadron saw a story in a Imperial museum that Palpatine had gone to Endor to negotiate with the rebels who had stolen the Empire's new ore extractor (The Death Star) and that Palpatine sacrificed himself to ensure that they destroyed no worlds with the extractor.

kevinhansen
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Legends- the empire fought the new republic for 15 years and almost defeated them. Canon- the empire handed the the rebels/new republic victory in a platter.

udhavveersinghbhatia
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Honestly, the Empire could have made the War little more than a minor inconvenience had they not been evil for the sake of being evil. Archetypical fiction tends to be annoying that way and attempting to flesh out the lore surrounding it just tends to make it all the more confusing.

UncleMikeDrop
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That was original my hope for the sequel trilogy. That the Empire would wage a war (like legends) and not that they would say "LMAO, Emperor dead, lets follow some orders sentenced by some droids with his face".
A real war would have been so cool, especially in movies, because that makes sense with "STAR WARS"

rps
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The horrible strategy on the Empire's part is mostly due to Disney's lazy righting in order to end the GCW in a year after Endor. The war lasted much longer in legends which made more sense. The Empire had tons of assets at their disposal and the war was still long and hard in legends, as it should have been.

hornetc
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Easy;

Palpatine comes out of hiding, calls of Operation Cinder, rallies the Empire around him and operates as normal while finding a replacement for Vader.

There is literally no reason he couldn't have done this if he was actually alive after Endor.

Longshanks
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"As we know, operation Cinder took effect." Nope, nope nope nope nope nope nope.

Duchess_Van_Hoof
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Thrawn almost won in Legends (and it will always be the true storyline for me)

richardlew
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Let people like Gilad Pallaeon And other Moderate imperials to have do you centralize the political functions of the empire to make it a representative democracy similar to the imperial ruling counsel in legends during Kir Kanos Arc in Legends.

christiannewaye
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You put more thought into the war after the Battle Of Endor than the entire Lucasfilm Storygroup. I salute to you, my good sir

DalekOfChaos
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Star Wars Rethink: What if Order 66 accidentally got activated far too early. Maybe shortly after the war is underway there is a bug in the inhibitor chip and/or its programming, and something goes horribly wrong. How might this Order 66 go with more Jedi and less clones, and Palpatine did not plan for this? How might this impact the war? What would this mean for Palpatine and the Sith's Grand Plan?

Also another idea: if the Empire never built either Death Star. What would have happened if the Empire had invested all the credits, resources, manpower and such into other things, like Thrawn's fighter project, or maybe just saved those funds and such? Also, how differently might the Empire's military strategy be without the Death Star, for example how would they have approached the Battle of Yavin?

JediMasterZim
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I think operation cinder is the most proof we will get that palptines return in episode 9 was not planned at all as it makes zero sense for palpatine to have these contingency plans with him still being alive. Unless there was genuinely zero communication between the movie story team and story teams for other media’s like battlefront 2

uniquebart
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Pretty much after the emperor's death it would make sense that a lot of Imperial Commanders would want to take the opportunity to claim more power for themselves. Perhaps even rule over their own little Empires

JacobArtly
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Legends period of warlordism after Endor makes way way more sense than Disney canon's travesty

Arclight
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This is the biggest thing I hold agaisnt the new canon. The rebels simply put do not earn their victory compared to legends where the empire was simply shattered as a political entity like Alexander the greats. They still had all the power they amassed since the clone wars.

theliato
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Its almost like post Endor disney doesn't make any sense at all.

Also I thought Mon Cala had a very large defense fleet which is why the empire never really went after it.

kyleschafer
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The thing is the empire being able to pull a victory after Endor relies on them working together after Endor. Given how much internal functionalism there was before Endor, with a dead emperor that would only boil over into imperial civil war. A similar situation in real life being Rome post Adrianople there were many attempts some very close to succeeding to restore the Roman empire to its former seat of power but ultimately the internal strife made it impossible to do so. And just like the Roman empire the only way I see the Galactic empire winning is down sizing. The Romans survived in the east long after the west fell. A small group of imperials would need to locate a few systems with in reasonable reach of each of each that lack little to no rebel influence then fortify that region to make impossible to invade or at least much harder then it's worth from their reform the empire's institutions from ground up to eliminate future internal factionalism and then simply bide it's time. All the rest of the empire to die. And then wait until the New Republic cast it off as to small to be a threat. At that point very slowly begin building back up said power base. Then since we know the new republic demilitarized and grows weaker these reformed imperials having waited long enough and built their forces back up could launching an absolutely devastating campaign against the new republic.

theempiredidnothingwrong
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They could’ve if they had used Skillshare or something.

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