James White Refutes Himself | Leighton Flowers | Calvinism | Pelagianism

James White blatantly contradicts himself on the issue of “Pelagianism” and whether or not someone should be labeled based on a single alignment with a known boogeyman. Dr. White says that those sorts of tactics run counter to good scholarship. One may ask then, why does Dr. White insist on calling Leighton a Pelagian without taking into account all of Leighton’s teaching and ministry outside of Soteriology 101? 🤔

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[andnowthis]

“Inconsistency is the sign of a failed argument.” - James White

[chriscasillas]

The fact that Leighton didn’t even have to be in this video at all is awesome. Literally just let White do the talking…mission accomplished.

[tommycapps]

Then James White please stop calling people you disagree with Palagians

[EnHacore]

Incredible 😂
I think Dr White was predestined to contradict himself

[TyehimbaJahsi]

It's funny but sad. I don't hear "Christ" when James White talks.
And I sure as heck don't hear "Gospel".

[ejt]

I'm getting the idea that some people (maybe now many people!) think that whatever comes out of their mouth is right. They think so highly of themselves that they no longer have to wonder whether they contradict themselves. My first impression of James White was he was arrogant, which is a sin no matter how many degrees and followers you have.

[iAintSayDat]

This clip shows White knows he’s smearing traditionalists when he calls us names. We can dismiss the the idea he doesn’t see what he’s doing.

[russdoesstuff]

"Do you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Pelagius the wise?"
--
Sorry I couldn't help myself, I was predetermined by God to make that joke.

[sketchbook]

I was listening to a video on Augustine and how he totally changed the theology of the Church, especially in Soteriology.
Evidently, before Augustine, ALL the Church Fathers taught and argued FOR FREE WILL against the pagans and gnostics.
EVEN AUGUSTINE, during his first decade or so as a Christian, departed from determinism and argued for free will against heretics.
ONLY LATER did he bring back in Manichean gnostic beliefs and began arguing against free will.

[yvonnedoulos]

Whoever suffered through all the old videos of JW to find this gem should get a huge bonus in their paycheck. 💵💵💵

[yvonnehedeker]

Its so hard for humans to see or hear themselves.. Let's pray that the Holy Spirit help James White and all of us.

[mariebo]

I don’t know how anyone takes this man seriously 😐

[mattfuller]

He isn’t refuting himself. He rejects a particular form of argumentation to support calling someone palagian but you didn’t demonstrate that he was using the argumentation that he refuted.

[JesusChristisKing]

For as illogical as James White is, I still desire to see him saved and to see the Lord for who he truly is. We need to pray for him brothers and sisters!

[AndrewKeifer]

Just feed it back to him, "Dr. White, you can stand on your head, you can wear a pink tutu and spin in circles, you are a gnostic." and watch him pull his beard out in hypocritical indignation.

[mariebo]

I don’t even care anymore. Call me a “semi pelagian.” Just another buzz word at this point. Like “racist.” 🙄

[PETERJOHN]

Talking in circles is something Calvinists do so consistently that it could only have been predetermined. 😂

[briancross]

The hypocrisy of James White was decided by God before the world began.

[jackdabbs]

If this is not the start of a long series, I will be disappointed!

[turkeybobjr]

You will become a lot less concerned with being labeled a "Pelagian" when you learn that Augustine wasn't an Apostle and had no binding authority. 🤷‍♂️