Casual MBTI Conversation: INTJ & INFJ

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Chitchatting with my INFJ friend about normal things relating back to MBTI.

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It was great having this conversation with you! Thanks again, and thanks everyone for watching 😄

kurotadorii
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I love this video. This was a nice conversation between you two. As a younger INFJ I had a hard time figuring out my emotions. Now I know my emotions very well. A room full of people can be a hard thing for me, if i make eye contact I'm going to know everything your feeling. If we don't make eye contact I can still pick up on alot of emotions, I just may not know who in the room they are from. 🧿

ShiSmiles
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Really appreciable, useful to know the INFJ INTJ differences. It's cool to see content creators who are friends. The best way to learn how function a type is surely to communicate with them, and observe them, and not so much the theory.
It's surely a relief for INFJ to be around INTJ, they can be themselves, understood, no emotions to absorb, we don't confuse them (I think)

Same I don't like being on camera. But it's the best and most creative media/tool to share all the ideas, reflections, authentic Ni thoughts I find.
A space where we are free to share and create what we want without restrictions or rules.
I agree, with practice we get better at it. I find it's a good way to accept ourselves, be more comfortable and laugh at ourselves during the editing.
And to improve many aspects constantly.
😅 Agree, most of the things I do, are not the things I like to do, but the things I HAVE TO do.

ElodieN_INTJ_Typology_Insights
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Intj and Infj are some of the most loneliest types. Alone in their mind even if they are surrounded by people. I think true Intj and Infj will never feel or think they are special snowflakes ever, instead, it's this acceptance of their self and inner knowing that they are not alone.

Stella-dhfo
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19:40 great point here about the Fe vs Te. The most important things in life for me as an INFJ are: 1. Self actualizing, becoming the person that I know that I can be (probably relates to Ni), and 2. Being in true social harmony with those around me, feeling accepted and offering acceptance to others (Fe).

And what you were talking about around 25:40 I relate to so hard as an INFJ. I only do things if it aligns with my Ni vision (aka if it makes sense or feels right) or if I feel pressure from others to do it (Fe). Can be good or bad pressure unfortunately.

Just knowing that something has to get done is nowhere near enough motivation for me 😅 which is something that I try to work on.

ashdeen
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25:40 is so amazing to me! Many INTJs say this!! I need to convince myself (make myself feel good about taking an action or rationalize it or feel pressured ) in order to give any action MY ALL!! I relate to what she said completely! (I'M ENFP tho, but so interesting how feelers and thinkers are different in that aspect).

kellikakes
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Me the ever questioning INTJ thinking “HOW CAN YOU NOT JUST AUTOMATICALLY THINK OF HOW TO DO EVERYTHING IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY?!” And realizing “oh yeah that extraverted thinking is strong in me….”

Lowdermoomoo
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Bruhhh you bombarded her with Fi questions.... But it's quite impressive how she answered given Fi is soooo frikin hard for us INFJs

itz_me_kratos
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INTJ here 🦋. I found my outlet through poetry. Haven't gotten myself to share with the world though I'm feeling like I'm robbing myself of an outlet and the world. Guess I'm a bit conscious of the fact that it's mostly Fi-driven, which means I'm not shy to face the dark heavy emotions that most people would shy from. Anyway, I'm ranting🙈 (guess this comment section is another outlet lol)😂

rue-teelanga
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Loved the question about being on camera. Like even when I'm working and have to be on camera in remote meetings, it feels draining in the same way as being in a "traditional" meeting setting, so it's nice to know I'm not the only one. 😄

Also 100% agree that I can't imagine how I would function without Mama-Te. The idea just seems wild to me, even though I can understand the concept of feelings driving your motivation rather than objective goals and logic-based efficiencies.😅

epyonalpha
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That was a good interview, good platform and video, no BS, just honest conversation

NavesNiche
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Also, following my silly comment I'd like offer an interesting perspective I haven't heard any INFJs mentioning:

1. Regarding NI, I think NI is for one thing a way to look at the world through the flow of universal energy and imagination, what do I mean by that?
So if you have NI and TE you would look at the flow of energy through abstract mathmetical ideas leading the flow to a certain direction, for example if you have water that you want to lead from the neighborhood sink to your house, it would need to go such and such hoses while all the valves in the way have to be open, and if there's no water in the end in your house then you'll TE trace the valves and the hoses along the way to make sure everything is logically set so that you'll have water in the end in you house.
So that TE NI with energy, and that can manifest to calculate all sort of multi faceted complexities to make sure that the flow is done efficiently and is working all the way through its course, while the notorious 'tunnel vision' is just that: "I'm making sure this flow is flowing right now and you're blocking the way".

So the efficiency is the TE and the sense for (abstract) energy calculation is the NI.

While for INFJs we use NI FE to calculate the flow of energy of the room and of people so as to make sure everyone feels good theoretically or practically. And our NI FE is telling us exactly the state of the person and that's why INFJs are know to read people like a book, that's the talent we have.
And this NI FE combined with TI can make us very philosophical thinking of abstract ideas regarding the state of the world, embettering the state of its inhabitants, thoughts about (hopefully reducing) suffering, etc...
We care about the flow of energy in other people because we can feel their feelings better than we can feel our own.
It's a very weird way to live, but apparently the universe needs us as well, so we're here..
And here I am going to study zootherapy soon.
Wish me luck.

NavesNiche
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My INFJ friend once jumped out of her car at a stop light to help some people who were pushing their car through an intersection. Luckily I was there to take over driving.

ramsesemerson
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It is definitely easy for an INFJ to identify another INFJ and takes next to nothing to identify an INTJ, although first time you might accidently identify them as INFJ. I love both your channels, and of course make things Ni heavey and I can't help but to listen. As an INFJ myself, I know the problems of being a rare person and have to make my life myself since there is no place for me, for us. Before I was in touch with my Fi, I never knew which emotions were mine and which were someone else's. I have realized, if I have fleeting emotions that are dissipating pretty quickly when I am no longer around others then they were never mine. It always amazes me on how the INFJ and INTJ dynamic works. We are so similar and yet have just as many differences as well.

nickolaszissimos
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Looking forward to this, have seen some of her videos, good stuff, respect. Didnt know she was from the Netherlands? Im commenting because there's at least one other Dutch infj woman, making videos. . . So thats, something? maybe? ha : )
Im infj, also had three big Dutch buddies, different times in my life, Awesome people!

stevepeterson
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This conversation is comparing Ti to Te and Fe to Fi when really I’d describe and compare Te to Fe and Ti to Fi. When you describe things or projects having to get done (Te as more utilitarian) then she would have the same value and drive via Fe. Fe would not let her off easily in addressing the “other”. And you can shut off Fe when you get sick and tired of it getting in the way in maladaptive ways.

Meaning, Fe is often seen in a positive light but when it brings chaos from others or puts you in tricky situations threatening safety, etc… you learn to turn it off. We can see Fe clearly when we are using it by building detached Ti to see it better.

As an INFJ, my least favorite stereotype is that we are so nice. It gives me no wiggle room to be an ugly human. But yes, I am a crybaby 😂

grumpyschnauzer
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Te: just remember - People Order Our Patties

mumm-ratheeverliving
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Ask about Te, and she explains Ti almost perfectly.

chestercobblepot
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I’m an intj creator and it’s really difficult to talk to camera.

DiLu-op
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INTJs are rare but are they really that rare? Were they born during a solar eclipse, the same day as Jesus Christ on Sept. 11; have basque genetics; have rh negative blood; are left-handed; have divine intuition and supernatural abilities; have a godlike sense of humor? I think not.

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