Could A Grot Ever Lead A Waaagh!? - 40K Theories

Could a cowardly Grot ever become the leader of a massive Orkish horde?

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[A_B_]

The Revolution is now!.
"Orkoids of the galaxy, unite!"
"No Gorkamorkas, no Nobz!"
"I see a Waaagh! without Nobz or Boiz, where every Orkoid is a Boss!"

[matteussilvestre]

This video is probably the Ork equivalent of Heresy.

[StevetheWizard]

Ork 1: *lights Squig on fire, inhales deeply* "Wot if... one o' dem puny Grotz wuz big enuff to be da boss?"
Ork 2: *Punches Ork 1 in the face, steals the still burning Squig, inhales deeply so as to not be outdone* "Ya git. If dey wanna be big enuff to be da boss, dey'd 'ave ta be proppa boyz."
Ork 1: "I know dat, ya git! I'm sayin, wot if dey wuz big enuff?"
Ork 2: "If dey wuz big enuff, dey'd 'ave ta be proppa boyz!"

Ordo Xenos Inquisitor: "What followed this exchange was, quite possibly, the single greatest conflict between two groups of Orkz to ever occur. Entire subsections were rendered uninhabitable due to the two conflicting Waaaghs causing widespread dispersal of Ork spores, which ended up completely turning several planets into what we now call 'Ork Worlds'. Research into methods to reclaim these worlds is currently ongoing, but the outlook is rather bleak."

[TheMemphisxlr]

All would do well to remember the tale of Timbles the small, who led one of the largest Waaaghs in Imperial history, consisting of well over a million Orks.
His glorious charge lasted for all of five minutes, before he tragically tripped on a rock, breaking his neck in the fall.
Young Gretchin still recount the tale, in the hopes that future generations will be inspired by his example.

[papanurgle]

When the Gretchin Revolutionary Committee rises, the Galaxy will tremble.

[Arphemius]

"...those that comprise the orkoid race are some of the most unique."

That's... one way of describing them.

[MrControll]

...what if that's what the beast was? A grot who lived long enough to become big, and in the process learned way too many good tricks and good tactics?

[timthetechpriest]

There was in the former fantasy lore a goblin (fantasy equivalent to grots) eating a plate full of troll meat allowing him to grow and regenerate to a ork-like size and launching a

[Nyghtking]

I like to imagine a Master and Blaster type situation where a small smart gretchin is riding on top of a strong dumb orc and giving out orders.

[ApsalusSigma]

So in summary: Short Answer: No; Long Answer: If it has happened then something has gone really zoggin' wrong, and an actually competent git needs to step up and give the crazy gretchys a good smashin! WAAAGH!!!!

[chriskoukakis]

Well since in fantasy we have Grom(goblin that started a WAAAGH) and the universes are bound and have common links then i think its possible to happen

[anonymoususer]

*breaking news, a small green mushroom has started the second largest WAAAAGH in history*

[malcadorthesigillite]

Send in Da Black Gobbo!
Go on, laugh. Laugh until you see a Gretchin wearing Astartes power armour like an exo-suit.

[ZKtheMAN]

*NOTIFY BOYZ **_REPREZENT._*


*GRETCHIN CAN'T LEAD A PROPPA TOO ZOGGIN SMALL. IT WOULD BE FUNNY TO SEE A BIGGA GROT THOUGH.*

[jesusisherelookbusy]

“... if a Warboss or warlord dies, then typically *THE BIGGEST NOB* will assume command.”

This cheered me up no end so early on a Monday morning!

[hinty]

I don't see Orks standing for a Grot ordering them around, even a Grot in a Killer Kan. They would just destroy the Kan, so the Grot wouldn't be able to control anything beyond a small tribe that had few enough Orks for it to be able to win the fight.

Now. If a Grot was very very smart, in a tactical/strategic genius kind of way, and it was part of a Waagh large enough that the Boss was also exceptionally smart, but not quiiite as smart as the Grot. That could work.
It would need a Boss that was smart enough to recognise that the Grot was smarter still, and to realise that the advantages of letting the Grot take command outweighed the inherent irritation of being told what to do by a runt. AND the self control not to squash the bossy little git. Maybe then the two of them could lead the Waagh, the Grot coming up with the plans, and the Ork giving the commands, while pretending the Grot is just a minion.

Thing is, if the difference in intellect was too much, it wouldn't be long before the Ork ended up killing the Grot because of the inferiority complex it would inevitably cause. For it to work the two would have to be almost as smart as each other, in which case it would be more of a partnership than a Grot leader.

[poodlescone]

Yes. The first gretchin to kill Abaddon will be the favored champion of Mork. Now go get some, gretchin!

[kyrridas]

this is like the ork version of starting with a penny and trading upward until you own a house.

[sexualyeti]

I suppose they could lead a waaagh. But to do so is to convince the orks you are a bigger ork than them. At which point because the orks believe it, it becomes so and you simply become another ork warboss.

[latarshahall]

Gretchin leading a Waagh is as possible as a tyranid being friendly