ARROGANT Student Thinks His Degree Is “Worth More Than You”

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0:15 - Beginning
0:33 -College is a waste of time
2:44 - Jobs that doesn’t require degrees
4:43 - The institution
7:00 -Illusion of choice
12:00 - Could the culture around students change?

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[chrisloveusa]

Absolutely agree with defunding the universities and colleges and making them stand on their own. Especially when these institutions use their money to give scholarships to foreign students instead of being America first in everything.

[PhonyTerguson.]

Only just discovered your channel, i like the logical unbiased way you look at things, instant sub

[straighttalkwithkyle]

As a freshman in college years ago at Washington State University I had to take GenED 110 and 110. Those two classes were The history of the world before 1500 AD and the history of the world after 1500 AD. They were required for every single student in any major to graduate. I love history and I love learning about it. But those two classes were a waste of time and money and were utterly useless. Also, the tests were written essays instead of simple fact based multiple choice tests. They graded on writing skills and grammar. It didn't matter if you retained the information taught, they graded on your ability to write about it. They sunk our GPA's in a history class for not having the writing skills. I wasn't going to college to be a writer or a historian. College is an utter scam with all these useless classes.

[Austin.Kilgore]

2:15 Yeah from my understanding unless you’re pursuing a specific career where the college degree is absolutely required, then going to a trade over a college would be much more beneficial for most people.

[jackblevins]

What I like the most about your videos is that you always give a centrist view

[dgmcfadden]

I'm a retired civil engineer. Even the students coming out of a ABET accredited college with a degree have almost zero worth as a working engineer depending on the specific discipline. The degree is nothing more than hurdle that says to the employer that they are smarter than the average person and I presume in some sense configures the kid to learn. The fluff in college is a complete waste and I'll further say classes like Differential Equations, Calculus 3, and Calculus 2 have very little place in the average Civil engineer's day to day life. I am not saying it's not ever used but in 30 years as a working civil engineer I never did.

[rrudeljr]

The college system REQUIRES you to take a LOT of classes that have nothing to do with your degree. They claim to want students to be more well rounded while you are paying tons for each credit hour class.

[taylorcronin]

I commented on your Dad's channel about you to rattle his cage. Worked like a charm. Love you guys. Didn't realize how big pops channel got or yours. Inspirational.

[LauraTrauth]

Some thoughts as a (community) college professor: 1. community college classes are taught by people as competent as university professors and far more interested in their students rather than research grants.
2. community colleges are more affordable and more states are providing supplemental funding for them.
3. that said, grants and loans may cover college, but in most cases you cannot take out enough money (nor would you want to) to pay for a place to live, food, and transportation. Half of the students at my institution also work at least half time. And to get many forms of aid, you must attend FULL time, which means you are already supposed to be spending 40 hours per week on your classes, plus work, plus commuting, plus caring for family, plus household chores, plus sports if you are a student athlete....
4. mental health issues and substance abuse issues are far more common than you might think, especially among the underserved in society who are the very people CC's are trying to reach. Even if it's not the student, it may be a family member. I have had many students miss class because they were abused by a spouse, for example. Or had a spouse arrested for drug related crimes....
5. If you take someone else's money to go to college you are bound by the constraints of that money. I would have no problem if the grant and loan providers made a certain percentage of students who achieve employment upon graduation a requirement.
6. but that said, general education classes should not be shelved for any major. If taught right, they make you a better, more informed citizen. Oh, and in reply to a poster below, I teach Western Civilization classes (before and after 1500) and you can be DAMN sure I have factual multiple choice questions on all my exams because if you haven't memorized the facts, it doesn't matter how good you are at BSing a written answer. Your English gen ed is to work on your written communication. Your history or social science gen ed is to make sure you can participate in the shared culture of the West. I just met with a student in my online class this AM who thanked me for the previous Ancient history class he took with me and noted that Cincinnatus came up in a conversation he was having with his friends just today.
7. Most of my online network is made up of other college graduates. However, I am on an app called "Nextdoor" which is a neighborhood-based "facebook." I regularly see posts like this which indicate what our high schools currently produce (please let me know if you can even tell what this person is saying): "Sence this app has been taken over buy a bad guy, so let us know when he is gone, good luck , praying some body starts another like this, they." Oh, and there is no indication this person speaks English as a second language.... This is why we need college gen ed or hich schools to actually flunk students until they can meet 12th grade communication standards. Off my soap box now.
8. Our culture does place unneeded emphasis on college. While I wish high schools were more rigorous and we could count on HS grads having basic cultural literacy, we currently cannot. But even while this is very sad, there are many careers that do not require a 4 or even 2-year degree. You can apprentice or go back to that community college for a continuing ed certificate in network engineering that will get you an 80k+ per year job. By all means, do this if it is where your talents lie!
9. Respect anyone who puts in the work. Give them the help they need to know what the work must be in order to succeed. DO blame the system that encourages students to go into debt and by paying institutions directly, encourages colleges to charge more and more every year even if they do not need to to maintain basic services and reasonable salaries for their employees. And please don't put community colleges, which teach everything from elementary education to addiction counseling to automotive repair to HVAC to cybersecurity and X-ray technician in the same categories as elite or even state 4-year schools.
10, Final note - in my state, community colleges get less than 30 cents from the state for every dollar that goes to the big universities and our governor just tried to permanently lower that even more. So much for his campaign promises of supporting the working class... I'm sure it's the same in most states. Focus on affordable education that doesn't pay head coaches 500+ thousand dollars per year, spend tons of money on rock climbing walls and posh dorms. Your local community college is not a scam. It can get you trained for a job in under a year and needs support and recognition at all levels of government.

[EarlHayward]

I have a friend that holds an undergrad engineering degree from MIT and an MBA from Harvard… Years ago I was giving him a hard time on some mechanical stuff as well as some business stuff as my eduction is similar, just from a state university 30 years ago (about same time frame as his)… He said something that I never forgot, and that was: “it is not the education that is of value, it is the network”…

[AnthonyJacobs-ltzc]

The younger generation just doesn't understand it. What you're supposed to do in high school is look for a job that has" internship"you work for them for free but they give you experience and usually a recommendation which is a million times better than a college degree, and then go to college after you get the job to get a new title, salary, and benefits.

[littlelambs]

I totally agree, especially with Charlie’s last statement!

[stevecy]

In relation to this, very important jobs to our infrastructure don’t require a college degree. Plumbers, electricians…and I’ve been told that plumbers will soon be paid as much as lawyers.

[allanhitchmoth]

Yup!
You are wise beyond your years!
God Bless.

[rg]

The problem has been the same throughout time with colleges and universities.
If you have a field of interest, you should be able to focus on that field without having to take these other 20 classes that have nothing to do with it, and they should be electives.
For example, if I'm going to be a computer scientist 90 percent of my classes should be in that field and the 10 percent can be communication.

[tomkurowski]

You are a bright young man. There is so many negative aspects of the young generation that are extremely disturbing but when I listen to you analyze things intelligently and with an open mind it gives me hope. Thank you for what you do!

[tuckddd]

I think there’s a good balance to be found here. First and foremost, access to education shouldn’t hide behind a paywall. And if it absolutely must it should be extremely consumer friendly always. A “well rounded” education should be pursued in primary school (which needs a massive curricular overhaul itself) and higher education should be based SOLELY on what the student who is FUNDING the school wishes to learn. Obviously they need to be well rounded within their area of expertise, there may be a class or two that is a bit undesirable but necessary, but there is no justification for a future software developer to take a drawing class or a business major taking astronomy.

The primary issue I take with Kirk’s stance (and I may be misinterpreting) is that it seems he sees institutional education itself as a scam, and seems to take a more utilitarian approach in getting education with the end goal of producing income. It seems that he assumes that him being an autodidact means that everyone around him should act similarly. I know this seems a bit accommodating, but the reality is most people don’t have the desire to go and just learn about things. And one might say “well, that’s on them, wanna be stupid then be stupid”, and I agree, the problem is that those “stupid” people are allowed fill out ballots. I’m sure I don’t need to point to many examples of why this can be bad, hell why do you think political campaigns are run on emotions and not policy these days?

[ravenlorans]

3/4 what I learned in Grade/High School I Didn't have to know and have Never used that "Knowledge" in my life and and and and...

[yitzharos]

I've had a job since age 17, I'm 34.
My whole experience of Working in gas stations, and grocery stores, and fast food, and restaurants. I would frequently be working alongside and getting paid the same as People with Bachelor's degrees. They spent 4 to 6 years $40, 000 a year, and they had the same shit job as me. I worked in Electrical Apprenticeship- got free schooling and Paid OJT- and non Graduates, were even still my superiors based on merit, time and Experience. College is a Scam.

[Brenda]

I was not able to go to college when I graduated high school, but went to work in a factory office. The office manager wanted to retire and trained me in her job. So I learned cost accounting from the ground up, while doing the timekeeping, payroll, and inventory control. In just over a year.
Later, I took a job that required a degree, with the understanding that I would get an associate degree. When I took the 4 to 6 accounting classes required for that degree I wanted to laugh at what the instructor emphasized - it was all form; journal entries must be indented 1 inch from the left margin, 2 inches from the top of the page, debits must be first and credits last.... That isn't what's important in real life!
I basically learned the names for what I had been doing. I also took biology, golf, Literature, etc.; probably half the classes I took did not relate to the degree.